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Darth_X 
AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:19:26
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Has anyone begun porting AROS to the AmigaOne?

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Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:25:08
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Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:30:02
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While I agree that it seems a bit pointless, there's no reason why ppl shouldn't do it just for the fun of it. After all, there are a few successful open source MS-DOS clones you can get on PCs.

Also, since the ones making the "official" OS are not a huge faceless megacorp, I guess there's a chance for both OSs to benefit from a bit of friendly competition and occasional cooperation.

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Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:34:22
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While I agree that it seems a bit pointless, there's no reason why ppl shouldn't do it just for the fun of it. After all, there are a few successful open source MS-DOS clones you can get on PCs.


I guess that is true
I read somewhere recently (ann.lu??), that the Aros-team was given a free Pegasos 2 board, just to develop Aros for Pegasos,
so I guess there will be Aros for Pegasos in the future.
So, why not Aros for the A1?

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Tomas 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 1:33:08
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Maybe if someone donate a AONE to the Aros team

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tonyw 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 2:21:38
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And just WHO would benefit from such a port? It would probably take a year to get all the endian
issues out of the AROS code. And what do you have at the end of it? An AROS, whose very existence was justified as opening up the x86 hardware market to Amiga, being restricted again. I can't see that as a benefit for anyone.

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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 4:23:51
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Supposedly, AROS is endian-free already (I haven't looked at it). They're supposed to have a 68K version that should run on original Amigas, and they are porting it to the Peg.

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DaveyD 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 9:04:46
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I dont see the point in porting AROS to AmigaOne, when the AmigaOne already has an AmigaOS.

Isnt the goal of AROS to have an AmigaOS-like OS running natively on x86?

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runetrek 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 9:39:39
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And just WHO would benefit from such a port?


We would all benefit from such a port, choice is good. AmigaOne owners should be avaible to choose from a wide variety of OS.

MorphOS too, if that is possible, and Pegasos should get a OS4 port.

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warface 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 11:26:26
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I dont see the point in porting AROS to AmigaOne, when the AmigaOne already has an AmigaOS.


I don't agree with this kind of one machine/one OS approach. Choice is always good.

(teasing mode on)
maybe it'd be ready sooner than OS4
(teasing mode off)

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Anonymous 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
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If someone wants it enough, it will get done.

Choice is good, but so is AOS4.

 
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Toaks 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 12:34:43
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small issue here, i allready asked for the aros 68k/ppc version several times , if i ask on a board people always says YES there is one,but when i ask to have a look they stop answering..


anyway i dont see why a1 needs this and i dont see why an 68k/powerup machine needs it either.

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I have a version that runs hosted in LinuxPPC, if you want it let me know.

Can't say I enjoyed my experience getting it to build and run.

Dave.

 
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richp 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 13:02:12
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Hi all,

Some time ago I've looked at the source, there are parts that
have to be modified for the AmigaOne, and the "boot
procedure" have to be written for Uboot.

I don't know how long it takes to port it to AmigaOne,
and I thougt about it several times.

I think it would be a cool project

Richp.

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hyph-n 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 15:22:01
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don't we need a TCP/IP stack in AROS first?!

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Anonymous 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 16:15:22
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It's too bad they don't have more developers and leaders. AROS could revive the Amiga community and add new users way faster than Amiga Inc and Genesi can ever hope to achieve.

Oh well, C'est la vie !

I wonder if recreating AmigaOS 3.5 (I think...) or OpenBeOS is simpler? Which is more complicated?

 
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Georg 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 16:18:34
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aros 68k:

In the early years of AROS there has been Linux/68k version of AROS (also some Amiga/68k version). But it has not been worked on for years and would not build without a few changes/fixes because of some "design" changes in lowlevel areas. No, endianess is the smallest issue. AROS was from start written to take different endianess into account (tough a couple of endianess issues are not unlikely to be still in). But 68k is so terribly slow and AROS source has become so terribly big that any work on 68k version only makes sense if you use crosscompiler under some faster machine.

There's has also been an 68k Palm port of AROS not so very long ago. It managed to boot upto Workbench screen on xcopilot Palm emulator. The author of the port then had legal concerns (Palm possibly not being very happy about another OS on their PDAs) and also some worries about the very fast changing Palm hw (switch to different cpus, different gfx hw, etc.) which makes it hard to finsih something before it becomes obsolete. So work on the port was not continued.

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falemagn 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 17:28:55
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I have a version that runs hosted in LinuxPPC, if you want it let me know.


Well, we AROS people would want it too, if possible

Thanks.

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mausle 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 17:51:35
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Hi Dave,

Quote:

DaveP wrote:
Toaks

I have a version that runs hosted in LinuxPPC, if you want it let me know.

Dave.


I recently started to work on AROS for linux ppc hosted
and would love to get anything you are willing
to give away. If so, please let me know.

Markus

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DonnieA2 
Re: AROS for AmigaOne
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 19:30:27
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I see AROS as a pre-sales tool for the AmigaONE and OS/4... In the USA you have a lot of INTEL boxes. People aren't just gonna say yes, I am gonna move away from wintel/linux just because a powerpc chipset is out there. Wintel is cheap to buy and there are many loyal and frankly concerned about their pocket books.

To get the Amiga platform restarted correctly you need to have as many people writing software for it and using it as possible. A lot of current Amiga people are in Europe. Most have a very Euro-centric view point of what's going on. In the USA people moved on after Commodore went away.

I see AROS (for Intel) as the great trojan horse to get people interested in the Amiga and it's style of OS..

As the AmigaOne gets restarted and OS 4 with it's advancements (and later versions come around) people are gonna want the Amiga platform and probably a "true" Amiga..

If Aros saw distribution like linux, then it would definitely win a lot of people back in the Amiga's direction and people will want the more "advanced" capabilities of the AmigaOne/OS4 and whatever comes next after the platform is restarted..

It also makes the Amiga's future bright and not endangered. A viable OS will live on in one form or another on existing hardware and be portable. The best news about this is that it's not based on the profit margins of just one or two small companies..

I think this keeps future the platform as a "whole" relavent no matter if we ever have another "Commodore" situation on our hands or if everything new is wildly successful beyond expectations.. It's a win-win..

That in itself is a powerful argument to the powers that be that there maybe a future for AROS..

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