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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 19-Mar-2010 23:28:56
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| I think a two book approach would be best. Basic then advanced. Sure, it would be nice to cover everything in a single book, but then we would have to wait longer for the release of anything and more advanced users would simply not need half the book!
Or perhaps after a basic/intermediate book has been written, the next book released is more a reference guide, covering things in a less step-by-step approach and more a 'man' (a la *nix) guide?
I don't know enough to write any of the book myself, but if you need a proof reader, I do read quite a lot and my command of the English language is relatively good so I am happy to help with editorial duties if required. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1 |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 0:05:24
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Certainly would. Count me in. _________________ Sam |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 2:26:51
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| even though I dont have AOS4, yes.. at that price.. I will buy one..
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 10:54:39
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| I was kinda wondering, sortof as a "chapter 13", if a tutorial on how to make a semi-advanced text editor would be a nice idea? It'll sort of put all the previous chapters "into perspective" and absolute idiot beginners like me can see how it all ties together and makes sense in a fully functioning programme?
BTW, YES!!!!!! I would defo buy this book, especially if the "tutorial chapter" could be included, as it would give me a HUGE insentive to buy the AmigaOS4.1-running mtoherboard.
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 11:17:28
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| The "current" Amiga programming books I have are:
Mastering Amiga C - Paul Overaa
Programmer's Guide to the Amiga - Robert Peck
Inside the Amiga with C - John Thomas Berry
Amiga C for Beginners - Dirk Shaun
Compute's Amiga Programmer's Guide
The most useful thing in all of them were the examples, rather than the explanations.
The proposed book will be tutorial based - lots of small, practical problems in the early chapters, leading up to meatier programs as the chapters progress. There will be an element of reference material, but the autodocs, RKMs are Hyperion's responsibility.
The proposed book will be printed by a local printer or by a print-on-demand service. Clearly, it may not be the same quality as a "professional" product, but I think we need something, especially if we are attracting back new users (with the X1000 etc).
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 12:18:55
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 13:22:21
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I'd actually be willing to buy two, if that would help. _________________ This sig. intentionally left blank |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 13:39:16
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| I would be very interested in purchasing such a book. If it becomes available, which I hope, I would gladly buy one copy. |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 13:39:23
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| @yoodoo2
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Programmer's Guide to the Amiga - Robert Peck |
Ah, that's a real oldie, I have it too Most of the things covered there are obsolete now, perhaps with the exception of Exec._________________ The Rear Window blog
AmigaOne X5000/020 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon RX 560 / ESI Juli@ / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition SAM440ep-flex @ 667MHz / 1GB RAM / Radeon 9250 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 13:57:56
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| If/when I get an OS4 machine I'd probably buy this.
Would it not be better to split this into 3 books, basic, intermediate and advanced? I doubt I am ever going to write a driver for instance......at least I don't think so.
_________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment." |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 15:05:28
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| @yoodoo2
Yes it sounds good to me. It would be the first printed guide with dataypes! That I'm aware of.
But where is the advanced chapter on interrupts and MMU programming? I can help with that, well the first part. Last edited by Hypex on 20-Mar-2010 at 03:06 PM.
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 20-Mar-2010 17:04:39
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| @yoodoo2
I will buy one definitively! SDK documentation is a bit short so this will be great add on. Personally I'd go for both printed and electronic version. |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 21-Mar-2010 9:56:49
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| Official OS4PG thread here
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 21-Mar-2010 11:33:52
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| @yoodoo2 I asked for this on Amigans months ago, saying that what is truly needed is a printed programming guide, not a godzillion (and outdated) Amiga guide pages (quite confusing). A MUST IMHO!
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 26-Mar-2010 18:41:41
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yoodoo2 wrote: Would you buy the following brand new book, written from scratch, tackling C development on OS4?
Spiral bound, A5 format, approx 300 pages
Price: £12 + p&p from the UK
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Hell yes, I've had a brief starter in C but that was many years ago. Fishing around through various RKMs relating to OS3.x (and previous), supplementing with OS4.x updates, supplementing with several different sources, etc is not my idea of a good learning resource.
I'd say this is needed, and with the upcoming X1000 (all hail TrevorDick!) now is the perfect time: I would definitely buy a copy._________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet. |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 27-Mar-2010 11:25:48
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I would also buy the book.
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 27-Mar-2010 12:26:06
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One book with every developer SAM? _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 27-Mar-2010 16:54:40
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One book with every developer SAM? |
Nah!! One book bundled with every X1000. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: [Poll] New Programming Book for OS4 Posted on 27-Mar-2010 22:09:56
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Both the price an contents sound good so I would buy this book if it was available.
I would also be interested in a separate similar book on Hollywood as I think it would really benefit from its own book rather than a slightly out of place chapter in a C programming book. _________________ Sam440ep 667mhz, 512MB, 120GB 2.5" HD, OS4.1FE WinUae 3.0.0, OS 3.9, BB3, Catweasel MkIV Amiga 1200, Blizzard 040/40 (BlizzardPPC 060/200 with SCSI removed at present), mediatorSX pci, Voodoo3, PCI network card os 3.9BB2 4MB Minimig with ARM addon boar |
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