Hi everyone,

Five of my students are now busy with different aspects of porting Mozilla over to Amiga. Now I have three left that are still not doing anything. I was wondering, would a port of the game programming library Allegro be useful?

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Captain Moo Moo

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What I would find useful is a utility that would make Allegro applications call their SDL equivalents. Allegro doesn't use prefixes on any of their identifiers and should not be encouraged to continue since there is terrible chances of namespace collisions on non-object-oriented languages such as C.

@captainmoomoo

Surely someone will find it useful.
Phyton seems to be very requested too
Good coding.

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It might be interesting, but on their web site I didn't see a list of games that actually use it. I don't know how widely used it might be, if it's used by anything I'd like to see a native OS4 port of, or if it might possibly just be something available that no one has ever actually used.

If the library of games using Allegro is relatively small and uninteresting, perhaps something else would be a better use of your students' time and energy. If there is a good library of good games worth porting over, then this may be a good opportunity. I don't feel that I know enough about Allegro to decide which is the case.

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There are a large number of non-commercial games built on Allegro but none in the commercial sector. Allegro has been around longer than SDL and has many of the same advantages in terms of portability and speed.

I personally only consider the Allegro system to be useful on embedded systems without graphics acceleration since Allegro was originally designed to run games on MS-DOS.

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To see the games based on Allegro visit the forums on Allegro.cc.

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What I would like to see is Blitz Basic or Blitz3D, that would atract the bedroom coders again to the Amiga scene.

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@Pentrite

You are right, there is a gap between script languages
(ARexx, Python,...) and C.
Something like Amos or Blitz will attract new coders.

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GTK and GDK ?!

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Raziel wrote: @captainmoomoo Go captain, go captain, go

What he said ^

Allegro would be nice and all, but I'm sure there are other more interesting and useful projects for your students to do...

I agree that Blitz or Amos would be good, but don't those have a bunch of 68k ASM? Maybe a PITA to port... I'm definately not a coder, though, so feel free to ignore me

Are there any open source Amiga projects ATM that could use some help, perhaps?

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@Richi

GTK and GDK are being ported by Oliver Brunner and Ikka Lehtoranta and i'm working on os4 version. We are in an initial state but the lib can compile some test programs

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I agree that Blitz or Amos would be good, but don't those have a bunch of 68k ASM? Maybe a PITA to port... I'm definately not a coder, though, so feel free to ignore me

I wasn't suggesting they should port Blitz or Amos, blitz is a commercial app and I think there's somebody working in a port of Amos.

I'm sure de developers in here could point to some useful tools to port.

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What he said?

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Five of my students are now busy with different aspects of porting Mozilla over to Amiga.

That and of course the fact that he is providing us with three more students

@captainmoomoo

I have a suggestion. How about a wrapper library for Chris Hodges Poseidon USB library that maps calls to the AOS4 usb stack. That would hopefully allow several 68k Amiga applications that have usb support for Poseidon to run on OS4. There is a thread with more info here.

@captainmoomoo

Hi

I've been working with allegro with DJGPP in 1998-99. It seemed to me that it had wery wide API, but somewhat awkward. I just used its timer features AFAIR. It worked nicely, but If I had a choice, first I would look for something else. And - looks like it will have an API redesigned.
Overall - after looking at "the future" tab at the page, I have the impression that the devs know that it is a mess, but the internal code is coupled, so it's hard to refactor - they cannot just cope with it easily - they will start to do it after version 4.4, or so.
It looks to me as a low-priority porting target. Furthermore, I didn't hear anything about that 7 years - but maybe because my ears
I would suggest to port ACE (I guess it isn't). I don't know if it's possible, but ... would be worth the trouble.

re
Ed


My second idea is Subversion (with APR - apache portable runtime).

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I meant "What he said" as in "I agree completely with the above quote"

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Has anyone tried contacting Blitz Research about the possibility of porting the latest versions of Blitz Basic (Blitz3D etc.) to the Amiga (OS4)?

From what I can see the language has got better and better and would certainly encourage OS4 users to get programming. Particularly those who used the old Amiga versions.

Skunkfish

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Looking at the site again Blitz3D seems reliant on DirectX but BlitzMax uses OpenGL and has versions for Windows, Mac, and Linux.

They sell the software in downloadable form so adding an Amiga version to the range might not be too much trouble for them, if someone offers to port it of course.

Skunkfish

PS. Just realised I'm completely off-topic and apologise in advance...

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