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X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 17:08:41
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  | Hi,
  Just to let you know that the people have decided!  
  Everyone who registered has come up with suggestions about price, ranging from £70 to £520 so we're going somewhere in the middle to make everyone happy, I hope. Only 50 will be made, first come first serve as usual.
  The X500 Plus will be priced at £259 (GBP) + packaging and postage. I am also asking a company to make us a plain, brown, double wall cardboard box for it. Just for delivery, nothing fancy.
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  The case will be available in black or white with black or white USB keyboard
  rubber feet on/off switch LEDs all the screws, nuts, washers & spacers custom made steel DVD and 3.5" USB card reader brackets expansion card cover keyboard holders one 40mm silent fan slim SATA DVD-RW drive with SATA cable silicone fan mounts on the right side (in case you want to add extra fans) 3.5" USB card reader (52in1) powder coated aluminium base and rear (inside and out) in black or white with a matt finish custom made LED window Fully assembled.
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   Once I get all the payments I'll ask the factories to buy the materials and machine the plastic, the aluminium and the steel. They'll want to be paid in advance.
  I'll be assembling the cases myself, one by one, it takes time so please be patient.     As you'll be the first ones to get an X500 Plus please let me know your choices:
 
  1) X500 Plus colour (white or black) 2) Colour combination of the LEDs (white, blue, red, green or amber, they are interchangeable) 3) Your full home address (for the delivery) 4) Your Paypal email address 5) Would you like two free ACube's "A" keys adhesives? 6) Please confirm keyboard layout preference (U.K. layout is second best option if first is not available)
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  amigarulez@hotmail.com
  Registered people should have received an email from me already. If you have not received it please contact me, I might have missed someone so sorry in advance about it...
  Delivery: 2-4 weeks.
  PS: This project has sucked a lot of energy, free time and money, my entire classic, NG Amiga and Commodore collection, plus my car (twice!) and a few other items which ended up on ebay during seven years. You probably already know but I'll be making these at a loss for a while but I love it and I hope you're going to love it too. Add sad music here.   
  Thank you to everyone who’s been supporting this project, you know who you are.  
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaGYAT_HrHY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnYEmPqVbnw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpcy4xZKdQ
  For your mini-itx or flex-atx x86, SAM, FPGAArcade Replay, efika boards (?)
    Last edited by Darrin on 06-Jan-2013 at 11:35 PM. Last edited by TheDaddy on 06-Jan-2013 at 09:28 PM. Last edited by TheDaddy on 06-Jan-2013 at 05:20 PM.
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 20:28:01
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  | $420 USD?      _________________ Dammy  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 20:46:30
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  Only $75 more than the mass produced C64 rehash then. Last edited by Rob on 06-Jan-2013 at 08:46 PM.
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 20:50:11
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  | @damocles
  £259 = $416 or 318 Euros
  Some comparisons:
  Original Harry Potter's hat = £23 GBP
  Original Harry Potter's magic wand = £35 GBP
  Both items are produced in China in their millions.
  Coolermaster Cosmos 2 Case = £292 made in China in hundreds and hundreds of thousands.
  X500 Plus case made in Britain by hand, 50 pieces = £259 per case And you think it's scandalous? Really? Were you interested in buying it?
 
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 21:17:04
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  The price is pretty fair. It's a low volume product and seems to be done pretty well. Ask your local carpenter or other craftsman what he charges per hour.
  My only issue with that project is that I don't like keyboard cases and have no use for it. But I am sure those who like keyboard cases get quite some bang for the buck here.  _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001)  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 21:21:08
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  | Price is more than fair IMHO ....
  I would buy one if I had use for it ... hope your customers enjoy the case ! Well done !  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 21:33:59
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  | Thanks.
  It includes almost everything you'd expect, a slim DVD-RW drive, a card reader, an expansion slot for a low profile card...I should have gone for £520 (GBP) as suggested by some...  
  If I think that the average was almost £300...bah!  _________________ www.loriano.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 23:37:32
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  Seems a fair price for what you get. Shame I have no money, or for the next 18 years at least with my child lol, otherwise I would have had one. I have watched this project bloom over the last however long I have been on here. Great work getting it out of the door     _________________ My personal blog - CritAnime.com
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 6-Jan-2013 23:37:42
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  Great work!  No option for leaving out the DVD player and card reader? _________________ AmigaOne X1000, A4000(T), A3000, A2000, A1200(T), A1200, A500, CD32, Minimig+ARM, FPGA Arcade, Chameleon64, C-One, C128, C128D, C64C, C64, VIC-20, CBM 8032, CBM4032, Efika, Ultimate64  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 0:16:23
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 1:31:47
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  | Only $75 more than the mass produced C64 rehash then. |  
 
  main cost point on that c64 replica was custom built original layout cherry (?) keyboard, if we left out the professionally produced injection molded shell. in all respect to daddys work, which demands certainly a lot of funds and dedication, there is quite a difference between those items.
  now if someone would reproduce amiga layouted keyboards this would perhaps be interesting. seems too complicated though. |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 1:43:10
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  I suppose you are right.  It's incredibly unfair to compare Loriano's work with a piece of unoriginal design hampered by a severely limited keyboard layout and no expansion slot.  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 1:55:48
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  The key caps are fairly small so it maybe possible to have custom copies made fairly cheaply by a 3D printing service.    |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 6:07:32
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  | I've made my order    
  Hope that the quote of 50 orders will be reached.  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 7:11:01
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  | Are you making this with a PC keyboard? |  
 
  Yes, it's a generic USB, chiclet keyboard.
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  No. You can buy it almost anywhere.
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 | Why not replace the entire Windoze Keys with "A" keys or at least BoingBall Keys??  |  
 
  Because it costs money which then the customer has to pay.
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  Because some people want to use it with Windows keys running Windows or make their own for AROS/MOS/Linux. Think of the X500 Plus as a generic case for all computing flavours. I haven't tested MOS but one person told me that the Efika should fit. Besides giving them away for free? I have only got a limited amount.
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  If people are prepared to pay more then I'll investigate that. Some are already going around shouting that is too expensive...
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  That is why I include the adhesives, but only if people want them. A few have requested NOT to include them as they want to run Linux/Windows.
  Thanks.  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 7:37:46
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  | if we left out the professionally produced injection molded shell. in all respect to daddys work, which demands certainly a lot of funds and dedication, there is quite a difference between those items. |  
 
  The "professionally produced injection molded shell" is a reproduction and from the reports not even that exact (C64x being thicker/higher than the original). Anyone can pay a draughtsman to make the CAD for them based on an old design.
  This is hand made stuff, think of it as a piece of handcrafted work and NOT as a mass produced item.
  Yes the differences are the ones mentioned above plus the following:
  X500 Plus
  Expansion slot = Yes Support for mini-itx boards = Yes Support for flex-atx boards = Yes Can use powerful graphics cards = Yes 1 to 3 40mm silent fans = Yes Full size, standard keyboard = Yes
 
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  Expansion slot = No                                       Support for mini-itx boards = Yes              Support for flex-atx boards = No                Able to run on onboard graphics only        1x40mm fan                                                    Full size, standard keyboard = No              
 
 
 
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 7:50:45
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  Congratulations on completing and ignore the tight ass doubters, simple responses are as follows.
  Cool I want one or cool but cannot afford it.
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 7:57:02
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  | Anyone considering to try to build MosMini inside this case?
  (also I can not afford it for now, even though it's coolness factor) Last edited by KimmoK on 07-Jan-2013 at 07:57 AM.
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 8:17:21
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  Don't take this the wrong way, but saying that "I'm only going to produce X copies and they are going to cost Y GBP because I'm only going to produce X copies" (classic Catch-22) is the main problem in the Amiga market today, really. The thing is that since setup times are so costly, at some point you can more or less produce twice the number of units for the same total amount. The challenge is finding that sweetspot and a large enough market to reach it, which will never happend if you start by setting a fixed limit on the number of units you are going to produce...  |  
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Re: X500 Plus price and availability Posted on 7-Jan-2013 9:05:05
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  | A beautiful thing is taking the wrong turn because of strong personalities and super easy flammability of the involved parties.
  NOW we can say that this is really an "Amiga" thing.
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