If anyone is interested, the source code are "available to approved OEM developers seeking to leverage their high level of expertise and development capacity." (Quoting directly the Matrox page.)

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/press/releases/2012/ip_licensing/m_series/source_code/

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Its time for Hyperion to react!

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@Comi

Theoretically, Matrox promised a long time ago to do Amiga drivers, but since Amiga Inc is dubious company, it has never came to realization.

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amatrox.html

However, Matrox cards, even expensive, are kings of quality 2D and multi desktop pro support. Wonder did 3D performance improved with new 3D series.

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@vox

Maybe something is changed for Matrox. This move maybe mean that they are more "open" to other platforms. I saw a field in the "processors section" that i haven't seen before: PowerPC and Arm. In the platform you can specify your system as "other".

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@vox

True, that was time of Bill and Co. Matrox, Nokia, Sendo....
Hyperion is serious company, small but with credibility in community and in busines With Amiga X1000 and OS4.2 Matrox cards can open some new fields for paltform

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While I usually favor high performance gear I must admit I have a soft spot for Matrox. Been using a matrox (g550) card in my amithlon/os3.9 box for years. Even dual display works :)

@Comi

Would be nice to have any more drivers for OS 4.x done by Hyperion
once RadeonHD support is done.
Or it would be nice there is more open documentation how to make AmigaOS drivers

Now, with OS4 when we can use PCI and PCI-E cards, but problem is that we don`t have many drivers

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Is there Matrox cards with 3.3V PCI?

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Could be that they are feeling the pressure from ATI and nvidia so they open up to increase user base.

If this is the case Hyperion or whoever should give them a try, matrox have always been good cards

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Somebody should at least check sources, how well they are build and commented etc.

Speed of M-serie would be just fine for Amiga, because our computers are not exactly high powered and GPU hungry app/games are not presented.

One pros would be that Matrox products has very long life cycle wich could help devs

@KimmoK

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Is there Matrox cards with 3.3V PCI?

It would be far better if Acube would find the way to overcome that great limitation in next board design, revision etc.

According to Matrox Tech Guide

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As with AGP, PCI cards and slots are keyed to support different voltages. PCI cards and slots may run at 5 or 3.3 volts. All currently shipping Matrox PCI cards are compatible with either voltage and are keyed accordingly.

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@utri007

Matrox driver was always strong and stable.
These move let me think that maybe they're about to release new cards, who knows?

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IMHO, Matrox M cards are not worth bothering with unless they are available as PCI-Express cards. A quick searching only found *one* such card available in only *one* shop (so I guess it is discontinued), and it is also hugely expensive:
http://www.eshopbrokers.co.uk/products/Components/Graphics-Cards-PCI-E/Matrox-Graphics/Matrox-M9138-Graphics-card-M9138-1-GB-PCI-?prodid=179776

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@ChrisH

There are both PCI and PCI-E card. The cards are all OpenGL 2.0 compatible. Source code could be interesting to check and to learn how they do certain opetations.

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@ChrisH

Officialy, these series are PCI-E native (M Series on Matrox)

Maybe there are no plenty in shops, but they could be ordered fro Matrox directly.

If there are PCI cards, that is good for A1, Peg2 and SAM 440 users.

And they do work on 3.3V!

Love that they do think of small details - passive cooled, low profile,
stable drivers, correct colours, multiply display support ...

Now, in matter of performance seems its not ment to be 3D
even it supports OpenGL 2

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Matrox once had a great reputation for picture quality. That was in days of analog VGA connections where signal quality really mattered. Now that so much is digital DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, and LCD connections, is that still relevant? (An icky looking signal on the scope can still be a good enough solid 1 or 0 value at the right time for the protocol, and a better looking digital signal on a scope won't be any different to the receiver than the icky but still good enough one)

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@billt

Yes, but some other details make a difference. Sadly some of them don`t mean much for home users, but if one day AmigaNGs get some business apps Matrox drivers might be nice union and mean reliability and good reputation.

Interesting, heard that audio pros used to buy Matrox just because its noiseless.

Heck, I do even get tempted to get lowest costing Matrox card for everyday use (don`t play 3D games anymore, there is a Playstation for that)

Some of the best comments from Toms hardware news on card

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Why are people always talking only about 3D performance? Except for games, it's not that useful. If you have a PC at your job, do you think your boss really care about 3d performance of the graphic card you have in your work PC (unless if you are working in a video game company)? Even if your company needs to do some 3d, chances are good that those cards will be fast enough. Good Multi-monitor support, display correctness, driver realiabiliy (no crash!) and card realiability should come higher on the priority list. Having a fanless card is a big advantage for the graphic card reliability (plus it makes no noise). Do you think hospitals will put cards in their PCs that come need fans... I don't think so... Also, many buisnesses require 4 monitors or more. I am pretty sure that Matrox will come up with a multi-board solution with cards based on this GPU. Imagine running aero glass with 8 monitors.. By the way, I do have a ATI gaming card in my home system and that's ok for my need (except for display error on my second monitor when I run it in a different resolution than my main monitor). But for a job PC, that's not the card I would buy. nVidia and ATI may have similar solutions to the one offered my Matrox, but they will be costly too..

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I support an energy trade floor and last year we moved to Nvidia Quadro 440 MVS cards to run our 4 monitor set up. Prior to that we had been using older Matrox Millennium cards. All the apps we use are 2D and we run XP Pro so no Aeroglass. I am constantly checking Nvidia's drivers to see if they have come out with a patch to address the flicker their drivers cause when using multiple monitors. Their tech support simply informs me they are aware of the problem. Matrox invented the Unified Driver Architecture and their drivers have been rock solid for almost 20 years. I have already asked my manager if I can order a couple of test cards to try in our systems. When your PC is mission critical and even a couple of minutes of down time can mean thousands to millions of dollars in lost revenue you will think twice about going for the cheaper solution to save a few hundred. Part of the price is for Matrox's excellent support. I have had an issue in the past and Matrox sent out an engineer to look at the problem. We weren't even a large company. In a business environment I'll take Matrox over Nvidia / ATI any day

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@billt

Afaik, for example, 5th order low-pass filters are used in some cards.
Matrox card also supports 10 bit color output > over 1 billion colour on screen simultaneously.
There's also the Glyph Anti-Aliasing For Fonts...

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