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COBRA wrote: @ferrels Quote: Are you saying that the X1000 provides alternative multimedia and multitasking capabilities not seen before? I'm pretty sure that's not what I said. I said it can be an alternative computing solution, because it has the capability of replacing a PC in functionality (provided that all the necessary software will be available), but it also has something new (Xena/Xorro) that's not seen in other computing solutions today, something that can attract people from the geek/enthusiast sector. NatAmi is a cool geek toy, but it won't allow me to use it at home instead of a PC or a next-gen Amiga system because it just doesn't have the processing power for everyday computing and you're stuck with a 10+ year old OS3.9 at best. Quote: As for your last sentence, hope is not a plan. And we've seen no plans from Hyperion or Trevor. Just a couple demos and some vague release dates that get delayed and postings about 5 mysterious developer boards that some clown tried to pass off as a production run. If you have a look at what I wrote, I said I hope both NatAmi and the X1000 will do equally well. Why is it that every time some facts are stated about one system or another some people get all defensive and start throwing mud at someone else's work? It's not like the NatAmi developers have a better business strategy... Both systems are targeting very small, specific markets and the people behind them are all Amiga enthusiasts investing all their resources into the projects and working very hard deliver as quickly as possible. Give them some respect, rather than calling them clowns...

The Natami isn't "stuck" with OS3.1/3.9. AROS 68K is being ported to the Natami and new extensions to OS 3.1/3.9 and AROS are being added to accommodate the new hardware, graphics modes, USB and network stack. I wish people would research the Natami a bit more before they spread such misinformation as you've done.

And the X1000 team will have to do a better job at promoting the X1000. Just because it's an alternative to the PCs out there doesn't mean it's better or more desirable.
And just because Xena/Xorro hasn't been seen in modern computing doesn't make it desirable or worth buying. The X1000 team nor Hyperion have even discussed specifically what benefits Xorro/Xena will provide or what features will be used with Xorro/Xena except to make some vague comments designed to appeal to the classic Amiga crowd who are still enamored with custom chip-sets and custom co-processors.

And you're right. The Natami team doesn't have a business strategy. And why should they? They're not trying to create a market or a business. They're developing a hobby system for hobbyists and they've said as much. Unlike, the X1000 team and Hyperion who ARE a business and who keep talking about all the new and mysterious things the X1000 will do on their ultra-expensive 7 year-old hardware and OS4+. The Natami team has my respect. They've set out to develop a successor to the A4000 and have succeeded. They've made no promises that they haven't kept, unlike others out there who will remain nameless. You should go the Natami site and do some more research instead of continuing to compare the Natami to an X1000 and trying to cast the Natami project as a business that is seeking to create or expand a market or compete with the X1000. Get off the marketing soap box. A real market for anything Amiga has long since passed. Even the X1000 is relegated to a hardcore group of hobbyists who won't mind spending $3K USD for it. The number of users/buyers will be absurdly small as will the number of applications developed for it. The same can be said of Natami except for its price which will be in the 500-700 Euro range. I doubt that either system will sell more than 200 units. I didn't call either dev team a bunch of clowns. The people who are the clowns are the ones who keep comparing the Natami to the X1000. These systems are directed at entirely different hobbyists and not comparable. The clowns are also the ones who continue to make references about creating or expanding a market for Amiga beyond the hobby scene that exists now. There will never be another Amiga "market" beyond the hobby scene we know at the moment. The real Amiga market died back in the 90s for those who haven't been paying attention. It will not re-emerge or rise from the ashes like some sort of Phoenix.

Last edited by ferrels on 17-Apr-2011 at 02:45 AM.
Last edited by ferrels on 17-Apr-2011 at 02:44 AM.