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Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000
Posted on 18-Apr-2011 4:20:58
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@ferrels

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No, it isn't stuck with OS 3.9 at best. They're extending OS 3.9 to take advantage of the new hardware they've developed.


Last time I heard only Hyperion had the right and license to develop AmigaOS, so unless Hyperion is extending AOS3.9 for the NatAmi, then it will be stuck with version 3.9 of AmigaOS, perhaps with some patches and drivers developed to support the new features of the NatAmi board, but the OS will still be 3.9, which is not necessarily a bad thing of course, it may be perfectly sufficient for the NatAmi users.

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so why do you insist on negatively comparing it to complete PPC systems running OS4?


I'm not negatively comparing, I'm simply being realistic and stated some facts about both systems. I'm very happy that NatAmi is being developed and I hope it will do well and I feel the same way about the X1000. No need to get all defensive... get your facts right. 40-50 systems? $3000+? Do you have any valid source of such information or are you just spreading FUD?

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Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000
Posted on 18-Apr-2011 7:34:41
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@ferrels

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No one in his right mind is going to pay $3000+ USD for 7 year old technology


4 years, it is 4 years old technology!

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The price/performance ratio is just too out of line.


Considering PA6T (single core) will score at least 800 SpecInt2000 and the final price of X1000 will be around 2000 EUR - it is 0.4 SpecInt2000 per 1 EUR.

Compare it to Natami:
"68050" could be as fast as 700 MHz 68030 (according to Gunnar von Boehn) - roughly 30 SpecInt2000 (of course, I can give detailed calculations).
With price around 500 EUR - it is 0.06 SpecInt2000 per 1 EUR.

Natami will have nearly 10 times worser price/performance ratio in the CPU area than X1000!

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