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eXec wrote: @KingKong Thing is not about the avatar currently. You are off topic of already off topic thread.. The avatar shows a behavior of PPC followers here. I feel like the one in the middle.

Funny!!!! PPC followers feels the same (the one in the middle) about x86 lovers

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@eXec

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The avatar shows a behavior of PPC followers here. I feel like the one in the middle.

I hope you exaggerate. Nobody is using so harsh words towards you to justify such insult.

@eXec
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I feel like the one in the middle

Your irony and sarcasm is too subtle sometimes

Talking about your statement about PPC being dead, have you read my post #356?
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It would seem the SEPTEMBER announcement was following THIS he he It would seem that performance of Freescale CPUs is bound to rise a lot due to competition at the higher-end, which in turn should have the nice side effect of providing Amiga with strong PPC CPUs in the future... Besides, older Altivec from Freescale had 162 instructions, while their PR said the new one is an improved rendition (which seems to be proven by the fact the next one will have 180 instructions instead).

Simply put, there are new PPC CPUs on the horizon which are guaranteed to be fast performing and better priced due to strong competition coming, something totally new and unexpected.
Let AmigaOS evolve on the X1000 and maybe the X2000 will be a Freescale based competitively priced (attractive) package.
The high prices are only dictated by the current state of affairs, investors won't put much cash in advance (for a potential mainstream offering I mean) since they know that AmigaOS in current state would not appeal to the mainstream.

However the "after-X1000" scenario could be different, by then AmigaOS might be mature enough to have a broader appeal (thus convincing investors to put more money on the table), and due to new competiton coming, Freescale will be forced to raise their Price/Performance ratio, thus making a powerful and cheaper Amiga, a possibility in the coming future.

Be patient my friend, or, if like me you don't have much, do either 1 of the following things: forget about amiga, come back in 2 years and check where it stands or....like me say a big "go to hell" to other platforms, buy an X1000, support AOS development and enjoy the bumpy but utlimately satisfactory ride

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Not posted here in ages, but this thread prompted me to.

I think most people here are realistic when it comes to what OS4.1 can currently do and the speed of existing 4.1 systems (SAM) and proposed (X1000) when compared to modern PCs.

Your average consumer PC has a faster CPU than the X1000, but the difference is that Windows and in some cases Linux require a fast CPU to provide the interface that consumers expect due to the ever expanding set of features they provide. Throw a 4 year old CPU at Windows 7 or current linux distros with comparable ram to an Amiga and you will see systems that are painful to use.

Consumers however do not care about CPU speeds and memory overheads they just want a system that works well and does what they want.

OS4.1 can do many things that your average consumer would want with much less resources than Windows and Linux, which is why we can get away with old CPUs. But give an average PC user an X1000 and OS4.1 and I am sure they can find many things that they are unable to do due to lack of software and not speed.

I think Hyperion really need to identify the most likely and profitable prospective users and focus their energies on developing the technologies in OS4.1 that can bring them in.

If for arguments sake it was identified that home users were the target then they would be best placed focusing the efforts on internet and media support. (I do realise that the Frieden brothers outside of Hyperion are working on Firefox so they have the right idea.)

There are many technologies in Windows etc that are not required to fulfill those demands. So what I think I am trying to say (sorry about the rant) is that:

1) Having an older CPU is not the end of the world as OS4.1 is efficient on slower hardware than Windows etc
2) We do not have to match Windows etc feature for feature - just those that matter for the target market. (There is not the time or the money in the current Amiga market to compete feature for feature)
3) The sooner that OS4.1 not only supports those 'target market features', but does so in a complete and enticing way, the sooner that OS4.1 can make any ground!

End of rant, thanks for reading.

Lewis

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