On IRC in June this year, Ben Hermans came online and told us some things.

jahc: do you think we'll see hardware in 3Q 2006 too?
ben: Yes but it may not be hardware for everyone
jahc: so its not going to be a desktop solution?
ben: There are several interesting integrated solutions coming up.
jahc: whats an intergrated solution ?
ben: Integrated solution is a SOC type solution

Secondly, its been revealed that the hardware being shown at Pianeta is an OS4 motherboard.

So.. the question is.. what PPC SoC's currently exist, and have been available to hardware makers for at least 6-12 months?

I'm curious as to what spec SoC's are around.

@jahc

Mostly low spec Low spec in a desktop sense.

We are waiting for a couple of high spec ones. But they haven't been released yet.

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@jahc

The most common is a 400MHz one based on the 603e... the MPC5200B
(The same that's used on the EFIKA)

Not seen any others around for motherboard uses, but I think that's the fastest...

It's also quite easy to develop a board with considering all the schematics and stuff u need are provided on the freescale site for download.. Started to have a look at it myself, but I lack the time to even go beyond looking at circuit diagrams...

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So.. the question is.. what PPC SoC's currently exist, and have been available to hardware makers for at least 6-12 months?

From my understanding these were mainly evaluation kits by AMCC based on the 405 or 440-family ranging from 333-666Mhz.

http://www.amcc.com/Embedded/

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Secondly, its been revealed that the hardware being shown at Pianeta is an OS4 motherboard.

Q: What is an OS4 motherboard?
A: It is a motherboard that can run OS4 and has a license by Amiga Inc. for being sold as an "OS4-motherboard".

By that definition, I have certain doubts that an "OS4 motherboard" is being shown at Pianeta Amiga.

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@jahc

Just imagine running AOS4 on a 624 MHz PDA... ie HP4700...
Not a PPC processor, but could that be close enough ?

Jerry

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@jahc

Beside the nice and promisng 5200B all Freescale 8xxx are SoC.
83xx and 85xx are PowerQuicc lines: ppc based SoC with an emphasis on networking. the powerQuiccs are nice, but not best for desktop usage. The 5200B is a nice general purpose SoC, but with a maximum clock of 466 MHz it is low end. Prices of the 5200 are *very* reasonable, a board based on the 5200B for more than 200 US$ would be a rip off.

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Why not running os4 on Apple's Ipod?
They got full of spares of it, and it has a color screen too...

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Why not running os4 on Apple's Ipod?

Hardly likely that Apple would use someone else's OS.

Also it wouldn't be the most exciting thing in the world from a user point of view. Does it really matter how efficient 'Play', 'Stop' and 'Pause' are?

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Why not running os4 on Apple's Ipod?

The iPod doesn't use a PPC processor. OS4 only runs on PPC based systems.

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Quote: Quote: Why not running os4 on Apple's Ipod? Hardly likely that Apple would use someone else's OS.

You mean the Apple who do use someone else's OS on the iPOD?

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I'm curious as to what spec SoC's are around.

Freescale has quite a variety, and AMCC has some. None ar meant for high-end general purpose desktop style computing. None would make for a happy Doom3 experience. None are made for the kinds of things we Amiga users would like to use them for, but that doesn't mean they are totally unsuitable. New ones coming next year would be even more suitable, such as Freescale's 8641 and PA Semi's G5 SOC which seems pretty similar to 8641.

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It is always good news to get new hardware, but if the only hardware to appear will have the same specs as my mobile phone/PDA, I will feel a little dissapointed...

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I thought the license from Amiga inc. allowed a system to be called Amiga (such as the AmigaOne)?

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On IRC in June this year

Well between June and September, a lot can happen. I wouldn't take Ben comments "still valid".
Note that I don't say he was wrong or I don't know what.

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