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Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 11-Dec-2010 22:23:04
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Hi there,

Dnetc on Sam460 says: Automatic processor type detection did not recognize the processor (tag: "OS4:0x13")

What about an update?

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 11-Dec-2010 22:34:19
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@elwood

Benchmark software?
Last one I see is
http.distributed.net/pub/dcti/current-client/dnetc-amigaos-ppc.lha

Here are Pegasos results
http://www.ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=forum&file=1063036657.msg

I`don`t know much about it, but it seems Amiga is NOT officialy supported
http://http.distributed.net/pub/dcti/

So, someone would need probably to compile the last version and see how
this new old CPU (EP460) could be detected.

Usual type of problems, since EP460 is out, wait for next versions of everythings!

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
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@elwood

Do you have the latest version v2.9105.511?

http://www.distributed.net/Download_clients

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 11-Dec-2010 23:03:13
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@elwood

What about if you report it to the correct place - i.e. the d.net bugzilla? Lucky for you I saw your message .

If you can provide the output of "dnetc -bench", I'll make sure the fastest RC5-72 core for the 460EX is automatically selected (KKS 2pipes at a guess). Of course, there is only one OGR core that will work on the 460EX anyway. BTW, it's no big deal about not being able to recognise the processor - of course, it knows it is a PPC which is good enough generally .

The AmigaOS clients have not been updated in a while because there was no real reason to - no bugs and no new developments at distributed.net. Also, it's a bit of a chore updating the OS4 client because OS4 still does not have a CVS client that supports SSH2 tunnelling, hence I have to boot up my cranky old A1200T to manage the source code .

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 11-Dec-2010 23:07:57
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@marko

Doesn't matter either way because the latest released version was built before the 460EX CPU id tag was added to the exec includes, which is why it isn't auto-detected.

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
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@Futaura

Ah ok, good anyway that it knows it's a PPC and is crunching

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
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@some OS4 coder

Quote:
Futaura wrote:

Also, it's a bit of a chore updating the OS4 client because OS4 still does not have a CVS client that supports SSH2 tunnelling, hence I have to boot up my cranky old A1200T to manage the source code .

Writing a "CVS client that supports SSH2 tunnelling" sounds like a challenge

Last edited by marko on 11-Dec-2010 at 11:44 PM.
Last edited by marko on 11-Dec-2010 at 11:44 PM.

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 12-Dec-2010 0:15:24
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@elwood

What keyrate are you seeing? Any idea how this compares to the 440?

Thanks

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
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@gregthecanuck

440 speeds: http://n1cgi.distributed.net/speed/query.php?cputype=154&recordid=1

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 12-Dec-2010 14:56:14
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@Futaura

Quote:
if you can provide the output of "dnetc -bench"

Cool, here it is below. My board is a prototype and runs at 1 Ghz instead of 1.166 like the released version. I hope this doesn't change anything.


[Dec 12 14:52:26 UTC] Automatic processor type detection did not
recognize the processor (tag: "OS4:0x13")
[Dec 12 14:52:26 UTC] OGR-NG: using core #0 (KOGE 3.1 Scalar).
[Dec 12 14:52:45 UTC] OGR-NG: Benchmark for core #0 (KOGE 3.1 Scalar)
0.00:00:17.07 [10,124,948 nodes/sec]
[Dec 12 14:52:45 UTC] OGR-NG benchmark summary :
Default core : #-1 (undefined)
Fastest core : #0 (KOGE 3.1 Scalar)
[Dec 12 14:52:45 UTC] RC5-72: using core #0 (MH 2-pipe).
[Dec 12 14:53:04 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #0 (MH 2-pipe)
0.00:00:16.44 [3,055,014 keys/sec]
[Dec 12 14:53:04 UTC] RC5-72: using core #1 (KKS 2-pipe).
[Dec 12 14:53:22 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #1 (KKS 2-pipe)
0.00:00:16.08 [3,286,052 keys/sec]
[Dec 12 14:53:22 UTC] RC5-72: using core #2 (KKS 604e).
[Dec 12 14:53:40 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #2 (KKS 604e)
0.00:00:16.07 [3,137,568 keys/sec]
[Dec 12 14:53:40 UTC] RC5-72: using core #5 (MH 1-pipe).
[Dec 12 14:53:59 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #5 (MH 1-pipe)
0.00:00:16.08 [2,964,053 keys/sec]
[Dec 12 14:53:59 UTC] RC5-72: using core #6 (MH 1-pipe 604e).
[Dec 12 14:54:18 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #6 (MH 1-pipe 604e)
0.00:00:16.07 [2,981,904 keys/sec]
[Dec 12 14:54:18 UTC] RC5-72 benchmark summary :
Default core : #-1 (undefined)
Fastest core : #1 (KKS 2-pipe)

@marko
Yes it's v2.9105.511

Last edited by elwood on 12-Dec-2010 at 02:57 PM.

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 12-Dec-2010 15:44:22
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@elwood

Looks like +50% boost to EP440 677Mhz and about the G4 speed
However, PCI-E and DDR2 make it fastest Amiga at the moment I suppose

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Posted on 12-Dec-2010 21:48:42
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@elwood

Thanks very much for that - did you notice that I guessed the fastest RC5-72 correctly?

The good news is that I've built an updated client for OS4, and it went without a hitch and is running fine here - I had hoped to switch the client to use newlib, but that plan will have to go on hold until I can adapt the source to work with it. Will try to get a release out this week sometime - need to do the builds for OS3/WOS/PUP too.

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 13-Dec-2010 12:57:49
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@Futaura

Quote:
did you notice that I guessed the fastest RC5-72 correctly?

Yes but it's like the 440 so there's no magic here

Ok, thanks.

Last edited by elwood on 13-Dec-2010 at 12:58 PM.

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 13-Dec-2010 20:40:56
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@elwood

From the top of my head, that looks a bit faster than my XE/G4-933. Does the 460 have Altivec?

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Re: Dnetc and Sam460
Posted on 13-Dec-2010 20:52:49
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@Deniil715

The 460 doesn't have Altivec, no. If you're just comparing the scalar cores, the benchmark speeds are probably pretty similar between the Sam460 and your A1XE. However, those speeds come nowhere near that of the Altivec cores can do on an A1XE.

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Posted on 13-Dec-2010 20:58:55
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@Futaura/Elwood

Thanks for the numbers. Elwood is showing 10,124,948 nodes/sec.

For comparison my PIII 1Ghz PC overclocked to 1.1xGhz gets around 12M nodes/sec.

Looks like a 1.16Ghz SAM should be equivalent.



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Futaura 
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Posted on 17-Dec-2010 15:50:51
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As promised, new build uploaded, with the correct icons this time too. Keep an eye on http://www.distributed.net/Download_prerelease - should appear there soon.

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Posted on 17-Dec-2010 16:22:54
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@Futaura

Cool thanks.
Will install that tonight.

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They are online...

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Posted on 18-Dec-2010 9:46:59
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@elwood

I presume the 460EX is detected properly now?

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