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Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 13:58:15
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And, that "Amiga" message seems to be getting lost on some folks here - but, not everyone thank goodness!

We started a new thread to discuss this.

First, we want to say that of course we link to our blogs. We have a much bigger audience than the Amiga Community. The First Rule of Advertising is to Get Out There! Carrying that message ahead to a potentially interested community is always an initial target. Advertising drives sales. Sales drives companies. Without sales there is no company. A company manager that does not sell is not a leader.

Second: after what happen last month on this site and the coverage it generated elsewhere made us all look like idiots. Combined with the lack of communication from Amiga Inc. and the absolutely insane interview patter, we look like misfits and crazy people. Here is another great example of the same mentality: doodoohead who works for a major US defense contractor and wrote us late last year after one of our discussions here that he would insure his company would not work with Genesi. That is nuts! Especially, since we were shipping product to that Company at the same time. They are a good customer. Obviously, the threat and action was meaningless, but where do people get such notions?! When we showed a Company VP (known since my military days) the PM from doodoohead he just laughed and said "Amiga! You are joking, right?! You aren't going to do something with that Community are you?"

Third: MorphOS was broken once by our inability to continue to fund its development. Without money, the core developer team splintered. Many people felt we did not communicate the extent of our troubles as they accumulated. Frankly, we had no idea they would become as big as they did. We did the best we could. We kept bplan and Genesi alive. We survived. Now, the situation has improved and as soon as we had a chance to begin to reconcile the past we did. MorphOS will support the EFIKA and as we said yesterday we hope to support MorphOS more than ever moving ahead.

About sales in general and a commercial motive...

A solid and positive economic result is what makes strong companies and societies work. Please read this (it is not a blog):

Genesi BoP Project: Morocco Engagement Framework

This project is being funded by a Government and managed by an NGO. This can go everywhere and that is the point.

We would like to put the Amiga back in the Community.

Now before you write something about the lawsuit, ask yourself this: what would you do? We signed an Agreement with Amiga Inc. After a considerable amount of time and process a Judge ruled that the Pegasos should be supported by the Amiga Digital Environment. What AmigaDE was as described in the past and at the time the Agreement was signed is the last question. We feel like we are completely in our rights under that Agreement to ship what was promised. The EFIKA is covered. It is a new product and these are specifically included in the Agreement as are _affiliated companies_. The only bad thing happening here is that Amiga Inc. changed what they said and redefined what they offered. So confronted with this *bad* situation we have two choices:

1. Give up and allow bad people to do bad things. Just walk away.

2. Fight back for what you signed an Agreement to do. Just do it.

One last thing:

AW.net is a big experiment for us.

What we have learned:

1. The MorphOS market for the EFIKA is bigger than the AmigaOS4 market because we have sold it to the chip vendor.

2. Those that talk/post and spend money are much fewer in number than those that talk/post by a multiple of at least 50.

3. Those that do not talk/post, but read and buy are about the same number (/50).

4. Those interested in Amiga enough to read a blog (coming from any source) is a number in the thousands (less than 5,000) and is fairly consistent, which makes us think there is a small market.

5. If it takes a few minutes a day to keep the option alive, it is not a bad thing. The upside is we get solid publicity (see recent Inquirer article).

Thanks for participating. We will keep you posted.

R&B

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SpaceDruid 
Re: Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 14:15:33
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From: Inside the mind of a cow on a planet that's flying through space at 242.334765 miles per second.

@bbrv

Yawn...


/me ducks!


Edit: "A company manager that does not sell is not a leader."

What if he's the manager of a library or a museum?

Edit2: "we look like misfits and crazy people."

Erm, we are though... How else can you explain the dedication and money spent on a fringe computer format thats glory days are so far behind it you can see it coming around again in the future (For the benefit of non space/time traveling druids, Time is circular.)

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Hans 
Re: Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 15:28:35
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@bbrv

I hope you read my post in your last thread regarding Amiga Inc.'s contact details. Any comments on that?

I would consider buying an Efika if it did indeed run OS4 legally.

Hans

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Re: Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 15:48:14
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@SpaceDruid

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What if he's the manager of a library or a museum?

Are libraries or museums companies? The use of the term "company" implies profits through sales of services or goods, otherwise it's a governmental agency or department, a non-profit organization or a charity.

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Re: Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 15:55:54
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@bbrv

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First, we want to say that of course we link to our blogs. We have a much bigger audience than the Amiga Community. The First Rule of Advertising is to Get Out There! Carrying that message ahead to a potentially interested community is always an initial target. Advertising drives sales. Sales drives companies. Without sales there is no company. A company manager that does not sell is not a leader.


Good to hear; http://amigaworld.net/advertising/

Thread locked for now as you seem to post far to many blogs snippets promoting your goods.

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Re: Amiga means something...
Posted on 9-Feb-2007 17:12:11
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From: Inside the mind of a cow on a planet that's flying through space at 242.334765 miles per second.

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The use of the term "company" implies profits through sales of services or goods, otherwise it's a governmental agency or department, a non-profit organization or a charity.


That is the USA meaning, however in the wider world a company can be anything from a very wide range. I have in the past registered a number of companies that were non-profit including one with charitable status*.

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Are libraries or museums companies?


Of course they are. They still cost money to run and require funding and so follow the same rules and regulations (As well as paid staff members) as any for-profit company.

While it is true that some of the above are government owned and run, that is not true of the majority which still compete with each other for market share (And funding).



* With Companies House (The official UK government register of UK companies).

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