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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 18-Feb-2006 19:48:54
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Everything is perfect now. I'm aware of the net situation. Thank you for providing great examples I'm very happy |
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 19-Feb-2006 0:02:17
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| Now my AmigaOne coldboots in 15 secs. and resets in 5.. pretty good if you ask me, thanks to those providing tips in this thread
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 19-Feb-2006 1:41:51
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| @Troels
15s? 5sec?
Damn how do you get those speeds? What HD/HD interface/A1 model do you have? Is your WBStartup empty?
My µA1-C 750GX 800MHz, Maxtor 80GB, VIA IDE @ UDMA 100, SFS system takes about 27-28sec cold boot and 7-8sec warm boot.
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 19-Feb-2006 16:08:43
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| allr8 updatet the improvements list! take a look
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 20-Feb-2006 9:26:43
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| Check with Prefs/Font if you have the diskfont.library font caches enabled for all parts of the FONTS: multi-assign.
Check if you enabled the ft2.library font cache (Docs on the CD).
Check if you stored the bitmap fonts which are created from your favourite outline fonts on disk with TypeManager to avoid wasting time with font rendering during boot.
The fastest reboot times are probably possible by booting from RAD: :)
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 20-Feb-2006 19:32:15
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| @all
Put C: at the very top of S-S and you won't need it on every line!!
My S-S starts something like this:
C: kdebug "console memory" >NIL:
;SetPatch QUIET FailAt 21 SetA1 r2a=1 r2c=1 fastcas >NIL: Version >NIL: ..... MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards Resident C:Assign PURE Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T .....
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 20-Apr-2006 18:08:38
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| @Deniil715
Can I disable PCIGraphics.card in Kicklayout, as I have an AGP graphics card? _________________ And may the AmigaGuide you!
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 20-Apr-2006 18:38:43
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| @mwoof
No. PCIGraphics.card also does the AGP slot. if you remove it you won't have a working gfx card... _________________ OS4 Rocks X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 23-Apr-2006 2:21:10
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| @Samwel
I agree with you, I can't see how people get those figures. I have an XE running at stock 800 MHz, 256 MB memory. I do not use the VIA IDE , I have an SII0680 card running two HDs (0, 1) and a DVD/CD combo drive (2).
I have U-Boot delays set to 1 second each, serial speed to 115200 baud. My partitions are all FFS2, 2048 bytes/block, 500 buffers.
Startup-sequence makes "Assign" resident, but this made no difference to the speed with no User-Startup (most assigns are in U-S).
With no U-S (but normal WBStartup), I get this timeline:
0s Cold Reset (button) 5s U-Boot messages done ("Err: serial") 7s Kbd reset (lights flash) 11s "Booting" message on screen 12s Kicklayout choice appears (1 sec timeout) 13s "Loading Kickstart modules" gauge appears 18.5s Loading finished 21s Screen cleared (Radeon initialised) First messages out to serial port (sii0680 driver output) 27s WB appears 28s AmiDock appears 28.5s Backdrop appears, we're on the air.
Warm boot with no U-S (but normal WBStartup):
0s Ctrl/A/A 2s Kbd reset 8s WB appears 9s AmiDock appears 9.5s Backdrop appears
Naturally these times are slower with a complex U-S like mine, so I'll leave that out of the equation for the moment.
How do these times compare with those of a really speedily booting machine like saimo's? How is it that my machine has only just finished loading Kickstart modules at 19 seconds when others claim their machine is up and running by then? OS4 hasn't even started at that time, so no pruning of Startup-Sequence is going to help me. I've tried removing my DVD/CD, but that didn't help more than a couple of seconds, either.
I'd like to know because often my machine is used for demos at the club and I'd like it to perform as best it can.
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 23-Apr-2006 10:42:04
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| @tonyw
Well First i see you are using FFS2. Better change to SFS on your sys: because its alooooooooooooooot faster!
After you changed try out my speed improvements.;)
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 26-Apr-2006 9:54:30
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Thanks, but no thanks. With all the SW development I'm doing, crashes are inevitable from time to time, and only FFS can recover itself.
However, I did make a copy of the system onto an SFS partition just to test it. It booted in 29 sec instead of 30. Big deal.
My main delay is as I said before, in the booting department, long before OS4 gets to run. That's where I'd like to see how others' timelines compare to mine. I think everyone's bored with the subject now, though.
[edit] Just re-read Troels' post. He claims to cold boot in 15 sec. Hell, my system has only just started to load Kickstart modules at that time. What the devil is the difference? Or is he measuring it very differently? [/edit]
Last edited by tonyw on 26-Apr-2006 at 09:58 AM.
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 26-Apr-2006 13:34:34
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| @tonyw
well try to remove all ide devices exept your main hd.. some ide devices just take to long to say hello to uboot.(old or faulty ones) _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 0:51:11
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| @Mangaclub
Yes, I've thinking along those lines myself. I have two HDs, a Seagate 40 GB and a Hitachi 60 GB. I use many partitions on each for backup, alternate system builds, SW development, etc. I also have a DVD-CD combo drive. All are on the sii0680 card.
It's a job getting to the HDs because they are at the bottom of my Boing Ball case, under everything else. I have already disconnected the DVD-CD drive with no change in bootup time.
I'll try disconnecting one of the HDs at a time (I can boot a system on either drive) and see what happens. Maybe this is an excuse to buy a new drive? _________________ cheers tony
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 3:45:20
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Well I have a USB joypad constantly connected to my µA1. Also a memory card reader (part of my case) which also has a 16MB memory card in it. I guess I loose 2-3 sec when those two initialize fully.
I might try and remove both the joypad and the memory card and see if I get some improvements. Other than that I have really done everything I can do with my system without removing stuff from the system I want there. It's pretty fast, especially the warm boot
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 9:14:33
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| @All, recently I have changed the battery on my AONE, I restored all the previous values in U-Boot, but now I get 2 ide reset and I can't remember the U-Boot variable to avoid that. Can someone help me?
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 19:14:16
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| @Severin Quote:
No. PCIGraphics.card also does the AGP slot. if you remove it you won't have a working gfx card... |
Aah, thanks. _________________ And may the AmigaGuide you!
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 19:48:53
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I can't remember it either, but the shell command nvgetvar can help you out
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 19:52:01
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| Mine is left stock. It seems to take a long time when connecting to the cable modem. Before I was not using a connection and did not get a black screen for very long before the Workbench appeared. Now that I have a high speed connection it seem like this is where it spends the majority of it's boot time.
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 19:57:29
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Sorry if you were asked this already: did you put "Run >NIL:" in front of "AddNetInterfaces" in your startup-sequence?
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Re: How to improve OS4 Bootup time Posted on 27-Apr-2006 20:43:36
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->'...but now I get 2 ide reset...
Are you using Amiga as device#1--secondary slave?
Here it does that -- it scans device#0 then resets because it's not bootable: It's linux. For faster bootups, Amiga has to be primary.
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