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Legion 
Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 18:17:04
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@ironfist

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Removed edited quote and reply /tomazkid



Please?

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Are you cats nappin' today? There is a whole lotta sh*t-slinging in this thread...

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 18:44:32
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Personally I think option 2 is MUCH more likely since I cannot see any reason why a hardware manufacturer interested in getting OS 4 on his platform would not contact Hyperion before the actual hardware is built.

Really? I can think of a number of reasons why a board manufacturer would not contact Hyperion.

Hoax or not, Rickard R at least came out and said they were making a mobo for OS4. So far no other PPC motherboard maker aside from Eyetech has stated as such.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 18:55:44
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Are you cats nappin' today? There is a whole lotta sh*t-slinging in this thread...


No we're not.
Going to look through this thread now.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 18:56:07
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@jorkany

Well I'm interested what reasons you could name. If I were to develop a MB for a specific OS I'd contact the party that develops the software.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
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@jorkany

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Hoax or not, Rickard R at least came out and said they were making a mobo for OS4. So far no other PPC motherboard maker aside from Eyetech has stated as such.


Ehh Troika and ACK?!

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 18:58:09
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@jorkany

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Hoax or not, Rickard R at least came out and said they were making a mobo for OS4.

Huh? What?
So if it is a hoax (which it IS), then it is still ok to post you're making an OS4 mobo?
Are you the same jorkany who posts that people posting about projects you haven't
seen aren't real projects and complains and makes fun over such postings?

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
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Is Troika NG hoax?


Huh? No they aren't.

Well, I've heard enough.

 
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 10-Sep-2006 21:20:16
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And it became a huge thread after all!

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
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@jorkany

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Really? I can think of a number of reasons why a board manufacturer would not contact Hyperion.


Like? How are you going to make ANY cost planning if you don't have an idea how much the OS will cost? Sorry, but any such nonsense sounds extremely fishy to me; contacting Amiga is not enough, they do not own OS 4.

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Hoax or not, Rickard R at least came out and said they were making a mobo for OS4.


Beg your pardon? If this is a hoax, then Rickard R can say anything including he is working on cold fusion. I fail to see the logic behind that statement.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 10:30:13
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Could everyone PLEASE control their tempers? I can't be bothered having to process AR's all over the joint.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:02:03
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@ironfist:
>Lots of hostility here! How can anyone say for sure Rickard R is
>a hoax?

Because Rogue allready said that there is no public AOS4.0-version for the processor of this motherboard?

Because he never contacted Hyperion?





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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:12:14
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Foody:
Jepp, 10 pages in the first day or two.

Rogue:
Well, you shouldn't be too surprised if companies don't contact
you. As you can see on the official AmigaOS page on Amiga.com:

For information on licensing, adaptation or modification of any existing Amiga
Operating System, please contact, technologylicensing@amiga.com.


The sentense above:
Amiga, Inc. does not distribute or support AmigaOS 4.0. For information on product
availability, support, local dealers or resellers, please contact AmigaOne Partners
through either Hyperion VOF or Eyetech Ltd.


So for any license inquiries -- as Richard R did -- you are supposed to contact
Amiga Inc not Hyperion VOF. Hyperion VOF is to be contacted when you want
information or support, not licensing.

If this has changed and you are handling the licensing or anything you really
should tell that HMetal to update the website.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:27:15
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@ironfist

[sarcasm]Hmmm...well let's see here...
AmigaInc requests contact.
Hyperion requests contact.
Yep. Too difficult to understand the rules for sure.[/sarcasm]

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:40:02
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@ironfist

You cannot be serious, can you ? Rogue directly encouraged Richard to contact Hyerion in this very thread. Don't come up with "oh, but the website states something different". He obviously read this thread.

Even if the information is correct, if I'd build a ppc board, I'd be very much interessted in the effort (and cost) to port an OS to my platform, not only in the license costs. I wouldn't even consider a license, if it turns out a) I don't have the resources to get the OS working on my platform or b) nobody would do it for me (for various reasons). So, now, you tell me, that Richard "assumed", he would get OS4 running on his board anyway, without any technical background knowledge, no time estimates and no money allocated for the port ?

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:52:39
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@ironfist

Can we please stop this charade? As RickardR is a figment of your own imagination one might wonder if you've checked up on your mental health recently? Agreed the mental health here on AW.Net is questionable as well, but you started it, please finish it and be gone. Stop playing these games, it's not OK.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 16:58:51
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@zerohero

Simply, when you have post after post outlining WHO needs to be contacted and
you refuse to "accept" those facts, there remain only 2 possibilities:
(1)Reading comprehension is a challenge for the poster or
(2)He understands the facts, but chooses not to "accept" them

Personally, I look quite strongly at (2), because I think @ironfist is well
aware of the process.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 17:25:43
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@ironfist and @jorkany

Yeah, and I bet if Adam or Troika made an"announcement" like RickardR, you 2 would have been all over it criticizing and insulting them. Is RickardR some sort of hoax the 2 of you cooked up because your posts make ZERO sense.

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 17:41:18
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@ironfist

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Well, you shouldn't be too surprised if companies don't contact
you. As you can see on the official AmigaOS page on Amiga.com:

For information on licensing, adaptation or modification of any existing Amiga
Operating System, please contact, technologylicensing@amiga.com.


Realy, how many of those interested in licensing OS4 don't already know about Hyperion's involvement, their porting fee, that they do the work, etc.? Besides, if AI replied to license inquiries, surely they would inform the potential clients of Hyperion's involvement as part of making anything actually happen......

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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4
Posted on 11-Sep-2006 17:53:34
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Yeah, and I bet if Adam or Troika made an"announcement" like RickardR, you 2 would have been all over it criticizing and insulting them.
If you read my posts from before the first time ACK failed to demonstrate, you would see that I expressed my feelings that ACK was for real and would be a success. I gave ACK too much credit, it seems...

As for Troika, I *have* criticized them, on the basis that they have failed to show anything despite multiple statements that they would. I think Troika is a hoax. I also think Rickard R was a hoax. My point is, I don't see why Troika isn't treated as a hoax just as much as Rickard R has been. If anything, Rickard R at least announced a motherboard that he claimed would work with OS4, neither Troika nor ACK have even been able to do that. I realize this is just an academic question, but how is the Troika motherboard even Amiga-related? A hoax it may have been, but at least Rickard R came up with a hoax that was actually Amiga-relevant, even if it was only related by OS4.

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Is RickardR some sort of hoax the 2 of you cooked up because your posts make ZERO sense.
I don't know about Ironfist, but I sure didn't cook up Rickard R. Why bother coming up with an also-ran hoax when others who have been at it far longer are doing such a great job?

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