@Rogue

I think misinterpretation is inevitable due to the fact that everything is so cloak and dagger.

Everyone is left to guess what is going on because the people in the know cant/wont give answers.

@EntilZha

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What famous 500000 upfront ?

Well, I remember that there was mentioned some sum when talking about getting OS4 for different hardware. Am I totally wrong with this (since I was just wondering) - is there easy way to hire/get source from/contract Hyperion to do conversion of AmigaOS4 for some other platform if one gets green light from Amiga Inc? Since you probably have major part in the work, ExecSG can be easily be part of this process? Are there other licence holders in this currently?

(About that 500000- what is strange and famous about this excact sum, is that it could be from anywhere of Amiga's past: 500000 loan from Atari, Commodore comes and saves, current Amiga Inc's requirement for net sales of 500000 etc)

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@AmigaBlitter

Pancakes on a BBQ ? I must try that !!

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I'd ask questions, but I don't think anyone would legally be allowed to answer them.

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@Rogue

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Didn't say so, I guess contacting Hyperion would be a starter. I merely wanted to point out that Amiga Inc themselves cannot license AmigaOS 4.0 in its current form to anybody.

ok i am confused now. the reasons given in the past for not porting to X system was always you must have a license from ainc. and pay hyperion for porting. now we are being told that ainc cannot license os4 for use on X hardware you must contact hyperion. which is right?

as far as i understood ainc must be contacted and an agreement hammered out then hyperion is contacted afterwards for porting. is this wrong?

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@Rogue

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Didn't say so, I guess contacting Hyperion would be a starter. I merely wanted to point out that Amiga Inc themselves cnot license AmigaOS 4.0 in its current form to anybody. But nevermind, I'll shut up. It seems that whatever I say is misinterpreted anyway, so I am going to refrain from posting.

So in other words AmigaOS4.0 belongs to Hyperion and Amiga Inc.

So what is the best way asking for meeting where all parties are involved can join.

Anyway I think is bit backwards that Hyperion and Amiga Inc wait for some to come knocking on there doors, should not Hyperion and Amiga Inc be looking for partners asking around talk to hardware vendors. Your company might be doing that but it looks too me that there are no activity like that going on.

Well it might be that you do not have the resources to do more then one hardware project at one time, or maybe there is some other obstacles form doing that that way.

Maybe the company’s that own AmigaOS4 should make more clear how licensing works.

Step 1. Do this
Step 2. Do that
Step 3. And finally sign this

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Actually it seems that is owned (partial) by AInc,Hyperion,Friedens. Wether other contributors also still hold right that might be needed to release is unknown.

Or in short, it's a mess.

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@Kronos

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Or in short, it's a mess.

Well there's one thing we can all agree on. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but look what a tangled web we have weaved.

@Rogue
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But I think I pointed out in the past that business proposals are much more convincing when they aren't done on public forums but rather via email.

Why don't you have a good, ol' staring contest?

Dramatis Personae: Bill, Raquel, Thomas, Rogue, Amiga Inc.
«all parties staring at each other intently, exept Amiga Inc., who is wandering aimlessly in the background, looking for venture capitalists»
Thomas: Why Don't you write an e-mail?
bbrv: Why, I write here?
Rogue: Because it's professional!
bbrv: Why don't you write an e-mail then?
Thomas: I said it first!
bbrv: Who cares, write an e-mail. You brought emails up.
Rogue: No, YOU write an e-mail!!
bbrv: Write an e-mail, write an e-mail, write an e-mail «fingers in his ears»
Amiga Inc: What is this about?
Rogue: Shut up
Thomas: Shut up
bbrv: Sir, please inform us of the license terms for OS4 on all Genesi platforms, including the EFIKA.
«Friedens jump up and start to strangle bbrv»

@dietmar

It's not often we find much to smile at nowadays on Amigaworld.net, but that really made me laugh out loud

Life sucks!

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Fransexy wrote: Life sucks!

and then you die.

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and then you die.

That is not dead,
Which can eternal lie,
Yet with strange aeons,
even this thread may die.

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jkirk wrote: @Fransexy Quote: Fransexy wrote: Life sucks! and then you die.

Every day we are one day more dead, or one day less alive

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@Rogue

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Rogue wrote: @CodeSmith Quote: if bbrv needs to contact the Friedens separately, they probably need to get hold of the remainder of the OS4 team as wel Didn't say so, I guess contacting Hyperion would be a starter. I merely wanted to point out that Amiga Inc themselves cannot license AmigaOS 4.0 in its current form to anybody. But nevermind, I'll shut up. It seems that whatever I say is misinterpreted anyway, so I am going to refrain from posting.

Well, from what's known about OS4 development, a great part of it was done by contractors such as yourself. I simply assumed that the othe contractors got the same deal you did (ie Hyperion gets to sell it, but the author maintains ownership of the code). If that's the case then bbrv will need to get approval from all the other contractors, because Hyperion won't own the code.

@Fransexy

Don't make this thread more insane than it already is.

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How can any software company hire contractors and then
not own the code?! Ben Hermans is supposed to be a lawyer.
Can he be this stupid?!

I mean, any normal programmer employed by some company
works for that company and every line they code is owned by
the employer.

Is this a crazy world or what?!

@ironfist

Who knows what is going in the background? Maybe it is even in the Hyperion's intrest to keep ownership of ExecSG with Friedens?

Got to admit, that hopefully those wanting to license OS4 with real hardware and intentions can do that without getting lost in the jungle.

@CodeSmith

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If that's the case then bbrv will need to get approval from all the other contractors, because Hyperion won't own the code.

Not only bbrv but every company that would want OS4 on their hardware

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@Rogue

But nevermind, I'll shut up. It seems that whatever I say is misinterpreted anyway, so I am going to refrain from posting.

Erm.. Well.. Eh..

Read my sig

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