@COBRA

Voted for a low spece'd system (¢250-400) and a spece'd system (1.0-1.2GHz) system. Honestly I don't think we'll need more than 1GHz. Not until there's some really heavy games or apps that require that amount of CPU power.

I do have an XE already but I will probably buy the next OS4 enabled hw that comes out anyway. Call me nutts but I can't imagine a better way to spend my hard earned cash.

/shoe

@number6

off-topic?

/scratches head

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gary_c is correct, this is just a survey to see what kind of hardware (considering a realistic price) peoeple would buy with OS4, if it was available, the specific products listed are just examples of systems which have been proposed in that price/performance range.

I personally don't trust that we'll see anything from ACK, he announced his projects 2 years ago and since then we've seen nothing, not even a picture of an early prototype, while he stated in January that the "PV-LT has gone into production" (before he even talked to Amiga Inc about licensing?) a few months later he said he needed a source of A1200 CPU slot connectors. If he did not have the parts, how could the boards go into production? Oh well...

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Frankly I would much rather have the developer speak for himself, especially in a case where a change of direction and focus is being reported.

I very much hope so. Unfortunately, it is much harder to declare something to be "failed" than to make rosy announcements.

But I think it would be adequate for him to do so after all the hopes that some have put into his hardware projects.

I would also like to hear if that means that all his other hardware efforts (LT, LT with break-out box, CPU modules) will be changed/postponed/whatever. As it seems, there are not only license issues, but also technical issues. Otherwise, we would have at least seen *something* from ACK, let alone CPU modules at Amiwest. But as far as I remember, there wasn't even the slightest official (non-IRC) explanation from him as to why he didn't come to Amiwest or why the CPU-modules are not on sale already.

@Samwel

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Adam got tired of this and seems to have dropped OS4 support completely.

If Adam really got to the point where he had something working, I would at least hope that he checks if the MOS-team has any interest to port MOS to that platform. Although I doubt it, it would be sad to just dump everything.

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Wow considering I have a bab on the way, I would go for the cheapest one I could find. I am very supprised how expensive the low end Amy say, compared with Efika, PV-LT

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@gary_c

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Strictly speaking, since the poll question asks "which class of hardware", it isn't actually asking about the specific models (leaving questions of availability aside), but rather about the class each one represents -- in terms of processor speed, form factor, etc. But I'm not sure if readers are taking it this way.

I agree. The poll seems structured in such a way that people, especially considering
the language differences, might relate the choices solely to existing projects.

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It's a shame Bill McEwen didn't say outright what hardware was being considered for a license. That would focus the discussion a lot (to put it mildly).

It's certainly not making MY life any easier.

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Anyway, since polls like this -- at this stage with no official word -- are basically fantasy exercises, one choice listed is just as valid as any other.

We are currently in the process of working on an improvement in this area, at least in terms of communication.

@Bodie_CI5

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off-topic? /scratches head

Really, I -do- understand that reaction.
But I see a difference between voting for a desired class of hardware and starting
a potential offshoot of the original topic by expressing doubts about one of our
developers in a public forum, without giving him at least the chance to respond
personally.

@COBRA

Understood. And again, I understand it is a public forum and we have argued the
existence and validity of many things here. I just think, regardless of what has
been said that we owe the man a chance to respond for himself here.

@hatschi

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I very much hope so. Unfortunately, it is much harder to declare something to be "failed" than to make rosy announcements. But I think it would be adequate for him to do so after all the hopes that some have put into his hardware projects.

I agree with both of your statements.

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None of the above, even if the prices would be half of that. Unless OS4 is made for x86 systems, i will not give a dime for h/w. Hell ppl, if we buy some fancy h/w from eyetech, what to do with it if hyperion stops further development?

No x86 version, no money. Looking forward for AROS, the only possible future amiga

Many i went to the dark side of the x86 force?

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@hatschi

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I would also like to hear if that means that all his other hardware efforts (LT, LT with break-out box, CPU modules) will be changed/postponed/whatever. As it seems, there are not only license issues, but also technical issues. Otherwise, we would have at least seen *something* from ACK, let alone CPU modules at Amiwest. But as far as I remember, there wasn't even the slightest official (non-IRC) explanation from him as to why he didn't come to Amiwest or why the CPU-modules are not on sale already.

There hasn't been an 'irc explanation' since AmiWest, either. Adam's fallen off the face of the planet once again. Up to a day before the show, a 'CPU modul is on the way (to AmiWest), ordering taken at show, shipping starts 3 weeks later.'

No word since.

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Magic wrote: Wow considering I have a bab on the way, I would go for the cheapest one I could find. I am very supprised how expensive the low end Amy say, compared with Efika, PV-LT

Uh,, and what prices SPECIFICALLY, are you using to make this statement on?
Amy'05 hasn't had prices announced officially, only something about 300-500 or so on the troika site...?

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@COBRA

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Choose your AmigaOS4 Hardware

I want a multicore cell processor based AmigaOS4

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@number6

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number6 wrote: @Bodie_CI5 Quote: off-topic? /scratches head Really, I -do- understand that reaction. But I see a difference between voting for a desired class of hardware and starting a potential offshoot of the original topic by expressing doubts about one of our developers in a public forum, without giving him at least the chance to respond personally.

The staff will be judge of what is off-topic; if anything that particular discussion is most "on-topic" since many have been waiting for a fair number of months for the PV to materialise. Adam has probably read this topic and was in the process of replying personally until the warning of the "OT" trend. I guess we'll never know

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Naw. You did the right thing, imo. It was a topic deserving it's own thread and
allows him to spot it more easily on the front page if he checks in.
Here's hoping "praise" for moderator's decision is ok here.

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@Srbin

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Looking forward for AROS, the only possible future amiga

I'm afraid you might be right there. I just wish more people would join and/or support the development efforts of AROS so it's progress could move at a faster pace that it is now.

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I just want something that I can shoehorn into a spare A1000 case I have, and somehow get the original keyboard to work

I don't care if its PPC or x86 with AROS, but an Amiga OS of some description!

@COBRA

As none of the listed HW is available yet, I cannot vote.
Once the HW is available I will compare the different offers and then make up my mind.

In the meantime I would like to get the final version of OS4 for my classic A4kPPC...

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@Dandy

The purpose of this poll is to give feedback to hardware developers so they can decide which kind of hardware they should be making, e.g. do people want just cheap hardware and don't mind if it's slower, or would they rather pay more for a higher performance G4 system? Or they find none of the currently proposed hardware interesting/reasonably priced, etc? So IF you could choose from the above, considering the estimated prices, which one(s) would you most likely buy?

I voted for both the 440s, enough power for ordinary desktop use and affordable price.

I'd like to see a higher-end SAM board at this price range.

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@elatour

Looking forward for AROS, the only possible future amiga

I'm afraid you might be right there. I just wish more people would join and/or support the development efforts of AROS so it's progress could move at a faster pace that it is now.

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yep, damn i am right :)
i wish i could have spare time for some c coding. Right now i am trying to find an appropriate replacement for stormpay's shopping cart, but it all looks i will have to learn php and made one by myself :(

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@SoundSquare

Ditto.

And these are chips, not solutions.

Just a suggestion, but an even better poll would be to determine what someone is willing to pay, regardless of the technology.

Either way, if you can't put together a solution with a USD$500 entry point it's silly. And if the solution isn't viable for running other mainstream operating systems it might as well be a boat anchor.