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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 12:05:17
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lol, OS5 you say? Give me a break!
Anyway, I agree with most you say but in a more mild way.
Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement. _________________
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 13:06:54
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| Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat? At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies... |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:07:03
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Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement. |
Actually they don't say what Amiga OS version it will run in any of the press releases. So because of that, again, ACK (nor Amiga Delaware) has anything to fear from Hyperion on this front. Also additionally ACK has no contract with Hyperion that it could be violating. Let ACK clear the air to us if he can then, again I still feel its very simple for him to do if he was originally being truthful.Last edited by fairlanefastback on 16-Jun-2007 at 02:11 PM. Last edited by fairlanefastback on 16-Jun-2007 at 02:09 PM.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:44:07
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| @Tomas I am against banning ACK - that would remove his ability to refute claims that he lied.
(Well, unless it is *proved* that most of his promises were false - rather than just due to incredibly bad judgement.)
P.S. I am not contradicting my earlier post: On the facts we know, I can only conclude he was (probably) being intentionally dishonest. But that is not proof, since it is based on circumstantial evidence. And as fairlanefastback says, if he is genuine then he can prove us wrong anytime he wants.
P.P.S. If he is worried about being torn to shreds, like Troika's fuzzy pictures were, then he need only describe what he intends to produce (in some detail) - and get everyone's agreement that those would be sufficient proof, before actually showing those pictures. Last edited by ChrisH on 16-Jun-2007 at 02:55 PM. Last edited by ChrisH on 16-Jun-2007 at 02:49 PM.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:50:27
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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was).
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:52:45
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| @tonyw Yes, so he says. I would be more inclined to believe him, if he had ever provided an ounce of proof of his projects being real - or if his bad luck had been less well timed at preventing the showing of such proof (i.e. the infamous pictures). _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue... |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:53:54
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Tomas wrote: Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat? At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies... |
ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert!
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 14:58:03
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There is irrefutable proof that he lied. He claimed something was in production and would go on sale while certain parts of it did not even exist at the time (the A1200 connectors). That was over a year and a half ago. _________________
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 15:17:40
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Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement. |
Actually they don't say what Amiga OS version it will run in any of the press releases. So because of that, again, ACK (nor Amiga Delaware) has anything to fear from Hyperion on this front. Also additionally ACK has no contract with Hyperion that it could be violating. Let ACK clear the air to us if he can then, again I still feel its very simple for him to do if he was originally being truthful. |
Although in the press release this is not clarified properly, ACK has stated clearly in an IRC session, as you might know already, that the machines are designed for OS4. Also the specs imply for this; PPC cpu.. what else can it be if not OS4?
But I like your kind of thinking; since they haven't stated what AOS version will it run he might have a chance to show it off!
I think this can be a valid excuse if Hyperion drags them to court. But then again why risk everything two months before completion (according to ACK) for the low-end system?
Anyway, you, me and hounders of others like us will be propaby here by the end of summer and then we will know for sure._________________
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 15:56:28
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Tomas wrote: Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat? At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies... |
ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert!
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But the thing is that amigaworld ban other trolls, so why not ack? I dont think he needs special treatment. I think all these lies and promises has done alot of harm to the whole community, which is much worse than the average troll achieves.Last edited by Tomas on 16-Jun-2007 at 03:56 PM.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 16:11:13
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But the thing is that amigaworld ban other trolls, so why not ack? I dont think he needs special treatment. I think all these lies and promises has done alot of harm to the whole community, which is much worse than the average troll achieves. |
But OTOH, just think of all the entertainment that he brought to us, all those exciting IRC-sessions where all those great products were announced? How else could certain community members have endured the dry spell if it wasn't for Troikas and ACKs announcements? I'm not saying that it is any different at the moment though... |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 16:11:43
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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was). |
I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy..
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I think we should put more pressure on him. He is making fools out of the Amiga community, you might like it but i certainly don't and i am fed up of two bit jokers making announcements which are just outright lies.Last edited by T_Bone on 17-Jun-2007 at 04:46 AM. Last edited by T_Bone on 17-Jun-2007 at 04:24 AM.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 16:36:56
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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was). |
I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy..
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I think we should put more pressure on him. He is making fools out of the Amiga community, you might like it but i certainly don't and i am fed up of two bit jokers making announcements which are just outright lies. |
It would seem to me that we as a community lay down a bit too easily when it comes to people not fulfilling promises. I think its partly born out of some wanting so badly something new that they dare not "piss off" the person, even if they don't think its likely they are being truthful. They figure, I think, "why take the chance"? I think instead we should band together and not allow ourselves to be treated that way. We aren't asking for anything complicated here to prove he is being truthful._________________ Pegasos2 G3 running AOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.0 Amikit user, tinkering with Icaros VM (AROS) EFIKA owner Amiga 1200 |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 16:54:22
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ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert! |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 17:49:50
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You are going to die an early death if you don't get your anger under control.
There are plenty of other people with the same feelings as you have, but no one else is spitting out quite the insults which you are doing.
Learn to converse in a civilized manner. _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 21:49:47
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Exactly. These people are so desperate for something to appear that they will believe anyone and turn on people who are negative, it has gotten worse over the years. People have been burnt again and again but are still happy to brown nose and give the idiots more ammunition to burn them more and more. These people are so frightened of offending hoaxers that they will degrade themselves to the extent of looking desperate and (yet again) show the world the Amiga community has lost its backbone. @Moxee
There is no insults there but strong opinions. I just stated that i think his father was used as an excuse to avoid being exposed as a hoaxer. |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 22:48:45
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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was).
I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy.. |
Would you like to see the death certificate........edited as per moderator request.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 22:50:41
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Ever heard of the term "libel" ? Now, I suggest you follow the requests Moxee Tomazkid, and _Steve_ made. Consider this a second (final, see TOS) warning then. Last edited by Seer on 16-Jun-2007 at 11:02 PM.
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 22:52:04
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My condolences to you and your family.
I do ask you kindly to edit your post and not to get down to that level please. _________________ ~ Everything you say will be misquoted and used against you.. ~ |
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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period Posted on 16-Jun-2007 22:59:48
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Would you like to see the death certificate........edited as per moderator request.
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No but i would like to see proof that you have actually products to release rather than the usual carrot dangling. As for the other part of that comment, that was absolutely hilarious, thanks and i hope no mods remove it..
(Edited to match the edited quote /tomazkid)Last edited by tomazkid on 10-Jul-2007 at 02:49 AM.
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