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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 12:38:22
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Then it must be pretty bad :-/ lol. I wouldn't have thought that would have had such a huge affect on the playing of mpeg video though (with no other tasks running). I just can't watch them. Let alone just the general speed of the OS. Maybe I am just too used to my old BVision setup afterall
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Ah, that would explain something then. I guess (like I said above), I have become so used to my BVision setup. I didn't think there'd be much of a difference, since people seem to favour the latter option.
@Crumb It would have been nice to see Elbox show support for the classic release, but in good fashion, they do tend to keep quiet. Ah well, I may just put my BVision back in
Cheers for the info!
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 14:26:19
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can you confirm tha PFS3 filesystem is not supported?
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 16:46:22
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| Does anyone else have issues when trying to make a new internet connection (ethernet)? I get a "Device 'whatever_card_im_trying.device'. Port 0 (or whatever port) could not be opened.". What have I forgot to do?
EDIT: I copied over the ariadne_ii.device from my old HD and put in my old trusty Ariadne II card, and this worked. Tho, I wonder why the FastEthernet.device did not recognize my fast ethernet card...
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 18:25:14
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| @ Crumb or Rogue
can you confirm tha PFS3 filesystem is not supported?
Thanks!
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 18:44:24
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Why do you think it's incompatible?
Sorry but I don't have a PFS3 copy. If it causes problems you could try to add it to the Petunia BlackList Last edited by Crumb on 11-Dec-2007 at 06:45 PM.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 18:59:56
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its not me ... i didn't installed it yet due this:
by Spirantho (post 116)
"And incidentally why can't it read my PFS hard disk partitions? The FS is on the RDB because OS 3.9 can boot and use them fine. They just come up as unreadable."
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 19:54:25
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can you confirm tha PFS3 filesystem is not supported?
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AFAIK PFS3 does some really ugly hacks which prevent it from working. You should use SFS, it's about the same speed as PFS3 but safer and PartitionWizard supports it. |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 20:04:08
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 21:34:34
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| Hi, this might not be the right thread but...
could anynody confirm wether the ZIV busboard for A1200 is working or not? I have a bunch of Zorro cards in my A1200 working with this busboard, I have not seen any post related to this on here nor in the ACube systems home page. It would be such a shame if confirmed non-working Thanks!
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 11-Dec-2007 23:34:50
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Yes it works, i am using a highway with it, and a PicassoIV with a Concierto attached to it worked aswell.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 4:10:17
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Awesome! Thanks! D. _________________ Powerbook G4 1139/MOS 3.9/OSX 10.5.8. Pegasos II 2B5 Mobo. 2 GB RAM. 400 GB x 2 GB ATA HD, USB 2.0 PCI. SoundBlaster Audigy 2ZS Gold. Quad boot: AmigaOS 4.1 FInal Edition, MorphOS 3.9 regged, Debian Lenny PPC, OpenSUSE 11.1. Rockin' |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 9:38:15
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| I've got my 4000 booting nicely now straight into OS 4.... so I'm getting a slightly better impression of what's going on! Some impressions:
* It's fast - but graphics are slow! Then again a PCI->Zorro bridge is never going to be too speedy, and I am used to an AGP Radeon 7000 on my A1.... * It's unstable running 68K apps. I've found a lot of things crash Petunia and bring down the entire system. Reckon there's probably not much you can do about that though. * I still get lock-ups copying large numbers of files! Tried different hard disks, one or two hard disks, different cables, removing some RAM (running at 70nS), different terminators... the OS runs fine until I copy many files and then it hangs solid - no read/write errors, just a complete freeze and I have to C+A+A on my Amiga keyboard (my USB keyboard doesn't work for this). It's consistent. I think I was just lucky when the OS installed in the first place. * Some things which clearly should work don't - for example Epistula logs onto MSN then slows the machine to an unuseable crawl while finding who's online. * Still some bugs in the memory handling! I tried running DVPlayer with 64MB of RAM and it then proceeded to allocate more RAM than it had, so the WB titles said "1,900,000 bytes Chip RAM -500,000 bytes Fast RAM", and knackered RamLIB. I had to cold-reboot. * Screen dragging - there's a looooong delay when you hold down L-Amiga and move the mouse down. About 2 seconds later the screen will drag and it'll be fine and quick until I switch to another screen, then it'll delay before dragging again. * Another screen dragging thing - I ran a Vic-20 emulator which opened an AGA screen. Tried to drag it and it hung the system solid.
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* Stuff that runs well runs very well! * I had a Spectrum emulator (68K) running to stress test the CPU to make sure it wasn't that causing the freezes, and then I ran an 800XL emulator as well which also happened to use the Overlay mode of the Voodoo - no problems! * Compatibility is good! PC-Task (which crashes the A1 no matter what) runs at about 68040 speed even using the Interpretive mode and blacklisted by Petunia. OpenTTD (68K) runs faster than my 060 I reckon (but graphics are still waay too slow at high res). Not tried the OS4 version yet. * It feels fast. Really fast. Much faster than OS 3.9 on my 50MHz 68060. * I'm still amazed at how they've hooked up my odd-ball system to OS4 so transparently. I'm using a Prometheus with Voodoo III 3000 and a RTL8029 network card, and also a Highway USB card and it just worked. No drivers or anything. Fantastic work. I even copied my Oktagon SCSI card drivers from my OS3.9 Expansion/ drawer and called BindDrivers - and it worked! Not tested it with any devices but Media Toolbox opened the device and scanned the bus just fine.
Overall I'm very impressed with what Hyperion have done with such little resources. The only thing really seeming to hold it back is graphics speed, which will be because the Prometheus isn't terribly speedy (none of the PCI options on the A4000 are - we are, after all, using a 15-year old Zorro technology), and also because I'm used to my A1 AGP system.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 10:18:44
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I still get lock-ups copying large numbers of files! Tried different hard disks, one or two hard disks, different cables, removing some RAM (running at 70nS), different terminators... the OS runs fine until I copy many files and then it hangs solid - no read/write errors, just a complete freeze and I have to C+A+A on my Amiga keyboard (my USB keyboard doesn't work for this). It's consistent. I think I was just lucky when the OS installed in the first place.
This is only when using SCSI Hard drives i may assume ?
Some things which clearly should work don't - for example Epistula logs onto MSN then slows the machine to an unuseable crawl while finding who's online.
This could be the rtl8029 driver, will investigate.
Still some bugs in the memory handling! I tried running DVPlayer with 64MB of RAM and it then proceeded to allocate more RAM than it had, so the WB titles said "1,900,000 bytes Chip RAM -500,000 bytes Fast RAM", and knackered RamLIB. I had to cold-reboot.
Get more memory ! :)
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 10:41:16
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Yup. Not got any other drives to test with. However, I suppose I could try installing to my Oktagon - may have a spare 4Gig SCSI-II drive somewhere!
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Ta. I'll experiment a bit more...
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Still some bugs in the memory handling! I tried running DVPlayer with 64MB of RAM and it then proceeded to allocate more RAM than it had, so the WB titles said "1,900,000 bytes Chip RAM -500,000 bytes Fast RAM", and knackered RamLIB. I had to cold-reboot.
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Get more memory ! :)
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I was just testing it. :) I run it with 128MB usually....
Even so, -500,000 is not a good number of bytes to have left! Exec should have just refused the allocation.... |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 14:49:01
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with 3 HDs (1 IDE and 2 UW) with a bunch of PFS3 formatted partitions, i doubt i will ever reverse to SFS.
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Well that was the first thing I did when I switched to using OS4, changing all my PFS3 partitions to SFS ones. I never regretted it. |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 14:55:33
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| Anyone installed on a CF adaptor? I get as far as Media Toolbox, then
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 15:31:49
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 15:47:17
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Framiga wrote: first post from AmigaOS4! you did a great job Hyperion Team!
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 16:27:02
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yes indeed!
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 12-Dec-2007 17:54:36
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I too, am experiencing some of those problems.
Despite the Mediator/Voodoo combination having slower bus speed, I'm still pretty sure things are running slower than they should be (or maybe I'm imagining things). To sum up a few things I have noticed:
As you mention, there are delays when dragging screens under those conditions.
If I open, say, Ibrowse on a separate screen for example, dragging windows around on the Workbench screen (in solid mode) is extremely slow. Maybe I'm expecting too much hehe and this is just a limitation of the hardware.
Still, the graphical corruption issue that is known about. I note, when I run AmigaInput, Showconfig, or AmigaAmp and more (or if a GrimeReaper is invoked) the graphical corruption renders Workbench useless (icons disappear etc) and a warm reset is needed.
As you say, when things run, they run beautifully. All in all, I can't give a proper account of anything until the graphics issue is resolved, then I can start tweaking and understanding more. So take any of the above with a pinch of salt
I shall keep fiddling...I'm so so eager to delve in and install more software, but the graphics issue is stopping me right now.
Mmmm, OS4.
Did I say I missed draggable screens?
[ED - time for a few pints of Leffe tonight, methinks. Cheers, Rogue!]
Steve
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