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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 7-Apr-2008 22:21:50
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Just made time to watch. Very uplifting and encapsulating an Amiga spirit I thought was lost. Guess we should all just get on with creatively using our machines rather than moaning about the state of things. God bless Eric Schwartz, a great Amiga personality!

Eric is worth his place in the Amiga Hall of Fame for the Superfrog intro alone and now this!!! Genius

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
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This guy's a real peace of work. He's going ballistic now, because a few people are challenging his point of view.

http://rann.livejournal.com/540279.html?view=893815#t893815

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 8-Apr-2008 4:47:22
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Yay!

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 8-Apr-2008 7:08:35
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@jingof

Ah forget it, the guy doesn't know what he is talking about...

But your last reply was cool!

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
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The guy probably has a tiny pen1s anyway so let's let him have his fun with his own comments on his own little site!

Rude!

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
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That's so funny!

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
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@Rudei

ok, then.
If that's what you want, the guy must feel lucky this time
otherwise, i would

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Posted on 9-Apr-2008 15:25:41
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awesome..just awesome

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Posted on 9-Apr-2008 15:29:45
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Loved the Video.

Thanks Erik,

your work is a true inspiration.

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Fantasic tribute! Well done Eric.

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check out the 'Code Monkey', 'RE: Your Brains' and 'Skullcrusher Mountain' songs


Thanks for this. Code Monkey is terrific and 'RE: Your Brains' is so funny.

Didn't know Coulton before you pointed out his site, but I've concluded that Jonathan Coulton rocks! Software guy myself, and 'Code monkey' is an anthem.

Other favorite songs I've found:

The Future Soon
When you go
Drive
Betty and Me

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
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I just watched the video for the 7th (or was it the 17th?!) time. I just can't enough of it.

Thank You Eric for making this!

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Swoop wrote:
So have I, and I converted it to divx using Tubexx and I get a .avi file which causes problems with DvPlayer.

I converted it with Tubexx as well and didn't see the problem you describe but the resulting file was about 28M as opposed to the ~8M of the flv file so I used ffmpegGUI (shameless plug) with the following settings to give me an avi file about the same size as the original flv.

Video Setting:
Codec: msmpeg4
Bitrate: 200k
Frame Rate: 15
Aspect: No Change
Size: 320x240

Audio Settings:
Codec: mp3
Channels: Mono
Bitrate: 96k
Sample Freq: 22050

Output Format:
.avi

(Hint: Save these settings and use them to easily convert flv's to avi's.)

The audio should be the same quality as the flv file but the video will be a bit less but you will only notice it if you enlarge the size. You can always use a higher video bitrate but the file size will grow. Tubexx uses about an 1100k video bitrate.

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 11-Apr-2008 11:18:04
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@ktadd

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I converted it with Tubexx as well and didn't see the problem you describe but the resulting file was about 28M as opposed to the ~8M of the flv file

What are your settings in Tubexx?
I converted the file in Tubexx using both the DivX, and dvd options, and got the following two files:-

Created in Tubexx - Divx option - size 39,429,016.
Input #0, avi, from 'Media:Videos/avi/Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz.avi':
Duration: 00:03:20.3, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1574 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Video: msmpeg4, yuv420p, 352x288, 25.00 fps(r)
Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, mono, 192 kb/s

Created in Tubexx - Dvd option - size 84,570,112.
Input #0, mpeg, from 'Media:Videos/mpeg/Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz.mpg':
Duration: 00:03:18.9, start: 0.500000, bitrate: 3401 kb/s
Stream #0.0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576, 9000 kb/s, 25.00 fps(r)
Stream #0.1[0x80]: Audio: 0x0000, 48000 Hz, mono, 448 kb/s

I don't know much about video, etc, and I thought I had used the Tubexx default settings. Q-pal, and auto-detect selected, with the video Kb/s at 2800, and audio Kb/s at 192.
As you say the file size diffrences are huge, especially the dvd one.

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so I used ffmpegGUI (shameless plug) with the following settings to give me an avi file about the same size as the original flv.

Video Setting:
Codec: msmpeg4
Bitrate: 200k
Frame Rate: 15
Aspect: No Change
Size: 320x240

Audio Settings:
Codec: mp3
Channels: Mono
Bitrate: 96k
Sample Freq: 22050

Output Format:
.avi

(Hint: Save these settings and use them to easily convert flv's to avi's.)

I am not being deliberatly thick here, but where and how do I save them.

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The audio should be the same quality as the flv file but the video will be a bit less but you will only notice it if you enlarge the size. You can always use a higher video bitrate but the file size will grow. Tubexx uses about an 1100k video bitrate.

I have emailed Stephen Fellner, and he gave me the following settings:-
Quote:
ffmpeg -i filename.flv -b 300 filename.avi

Which gave me the following file:-

Created using Stephen Fellner's ffmpeg options - size 9,406,670.
Input #0, avi, from 'Media:Videos/Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz.avi':
Duration: 00:03:20.3, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 375 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 320x240, 15.00 fps(r)
Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 22050 Hz, mono, 64 kb/s

It looks like the audio bitrate is giving the large file sizes.

I had threads.library v1.4 installed when I did the Tubexx conversion, and I updated to v1.5, after seeing the topic about it on AW. Both the Tubexx .avi file and the ffmpeg .avi file play fine now, but the .mpg still locks my system.
I don't know how the decoding, etc uses memory, but I have 512mb of ram installed, which I would have thought was sufficient to play the .mpg file.

I might try to re-encode them, now that I have the v1.5 threads.library installed and see if that makes any difference.

Any help greatfully recieved.

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 11-Apr-2008 20:02:20
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@Swoop

At the risk of straying off topic I'll respond with a couple of short answers here.
If you want to PM me or start another thread I'd be happy to try and help further if needed.

To keep on topic first I'd like to say this is an enjoyable little video and I'd like to
add my thanks to Eric!

Quote:

What are your settings in Tubexx?

Sorry, I'm at work so I can't check but we can take this up in a follow-on if you want.

Quote:

I am not being deliberatly thick here, but where and how do I save them.

At the top of the ffmpegGUI GUI there is a "Select Setup" drop down menu. In that menu there are Save and Load Settings selections. Make sure you have the latest version 1.1.

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It looks like the audio bitrate is giving the large file sizes.

The video bitrate will have the biggest impact on size. The audio bitrate will have some impact on size but not nearly as much as the video bitrate. The bitrate at the end of the "Duration:" line in your examples is the video bitrate. Of course the lower the bitrates the lower the quality so you have to find a value your happy with.

Last edited by ktadd on 11-Apr-2008 at 08:04 PM.

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 11-Apr-2008 21:21:54
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...."creepy furry thing".....Indeed!

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Re: Animated Amiga Tribute by Eric Schwartz
Posted on 19-May-2008 21:52:15
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I finally watched this one on the pc. Great work Eric. I really enjoyed it.

Thanks,

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Took me a while to get 'round to watching it. Glad I did. Even managed to scrounge up an mp4 video of it available online (just can't remember from where).

Rann's Livejournal post (read it this morning) prompted me to fire something back of my own but (as I didn't want to sign up for another Web2.0 service - call me lazy if you like) I did it in my own blog entry.



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