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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 13-Jul-2008 17:17:33
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@Xenic

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Are Amiga Inc's pockets deep enough to fight every possible way of getting around their claimed right to OS4?


Are you sure you are not confusing having "deep pockets" with having "something IN those pockets"? Heh!

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 13-Jul-2008 17:38:27
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@m3x

"The suggested retail price for OS4.1 is Euro 105 + local VAT / taxes."
1 - This price for those who have already OS4?
2 - For Sam with OS4.1 no news?

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 13-Jul-2008 19:47:34
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@Xenic

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Windows PC sellers purchase or develop BIOS etc. to run Windows on their systems. What prevents someone from developing software like a BIOS that will support OS4?

You still have to have a license to run windows, regardless of what the bios is capable of.

Quote:
Back in the days of Windows 3.1 we had emulators that let us run Windows on an Amiga. How would an OS4 capable hardware emulator be different than UAE or a Windows emulator?

Again you still had to have a copy of windows to run on it.

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 13-Jul-2008 20:16:52
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No support for Classic is forecasted: this is a final cut, said ACube. Supporting only new gen machines enables focusing on new features.


How many NON-classic PPC Amiga's exists? Sounds like a small market for OS4.1 to start with?

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Re: AIConf 08
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@bitman

Rogue quote:

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As I wrote elsewhere, I *think* that 4.1 is planned for the Classic too, but Management will have the final say about it.


source

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 13-Jul-2008 20:55:55
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More photos from Enfield plus short report (in Polish).

Greetings to all the attendants and to Jacek and his wife who made an effort to be there, took photos and made them available for everybody (mostly on PPA).

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 9:58:58
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@mailman

Hi, is that os4 running on Powerbook ?

I can see Directory Opus, etc.





greetings zE


EDIT: Ohh, it´s a MacbookPro (iSightCam on LCD)! Maybe it´s Amiga4ever or RemoteDesktop...

Mod's note: Resized the image and added an enlarged detail

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Re: AIConf 08
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Still waiting for a good video or two. I saw the youtube videos, but the screen was faded. Not being able to understand Italian, that meant that those videos just looked like a bunch of guys standing and walking around behind a long table, with a washed-out projector screen behind them.

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 14:29:46
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@Hans

http://learnitalian.elanguageschool.net/

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Lecta 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 15:31:43
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From: Italy

@Hans

I have uploaded three small videos on youtube. The quality is poor because I used my cell-phone. Sorry for that.

First Video
This video shows some of the features of the new HW accelerated composition engine that will be included in AmigaOS 4.1
In this video you can see the transparent windows and a small window containing a thumbnail of the WB screen that is updated in real time

Second Video
This video shows some of the features of the new HW accelerated composition engine that will be included in AmigaOS 4.1
In this video you can see the zoom utility. Activating the titlebar of the utility and holding down the right mouse button you can zoom and navigate in real time the WB screen using the scroll wheel to increase or decrease the zoom factor.

Third Video
The new lister can display a miniature of the file/drawer Icon (size is fully configurable and can also be bigger than the original). The window can have stripes of different colors to help follow long lines of text, column headers can be clicked to change sort order and you can have accurate description of file types thanks to integration with deficons. All those aspects are fully configurable with Workbench Preference window.

Just two more words about the demo I held.
For all the duration of the demo I worked using Virtual Memory. At the beginning I copied a 780Mb file in RAM DISK (my A1 has only 512 MB of phisical RAM). If I remember correctly It took about 12-15 seconds (from a SFS partiton to RAM).

I then showed all the things you can see on the videos and much more:
- I opened a PDF file and browsed some ot its content
- I played a video (from one of my partitions) with DvPlayer (it was the same 780MB file I copied in ram)
- I launched Cygnix and AbiWord
- I launched Tunenet with a couple of skins

All of this with no visible slowdown.
My A1 is equipped with a G4@1GHZ (one of those repaired and upgraded by ACube Systems) with a Radeon 9000 PRO video card.

BTW, I forgot to show the new ASL file requester.... It's now using reaction and has some of the functionality of the new text mode lister.

Bye,
Lecta

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stone 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 15:37:35
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@Lecta

that hardware accelerated composition of the workbench is massively cool.

/stone

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elwood 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 16:09:35
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@Lecta

Thanks for the report.

/me thinks we'll have huge games with virtual memory

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Xenic 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 16:36:12
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@Swoop

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Again you still had to have a copy of windows to run on it.


Understood. I have a copy of OS4 and will have a copy of OS 4.1 when it is actually released. What's to prevent running it on an A1 clone (PPC hardware with the necessary "BIOS")?? Hyperion may be prevented from licensing the OS to a hardware manufacturer, but what's to stop them from licensing the copy-protection software needed to run the OS. The copy-protection isn't part of the OS and could be applied to another OS or program.

If OS 4.1 is released for use on my A1 and I choose to run it on other hardware, that's my decision and not Hyperion's or the hardware provider's.

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Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 22:54:11
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@stone

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that hardware accelerated composition of the workbench is massively cool.


Yeah! It rocks!!!!

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Hans 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 14-Jul-2008 23:55:29
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@Lecta

Thanks for that. A video taken by a phone is better than nothing. I like the look of OS 4.1.

Hans

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Hans 
Re: AIConf 08
Posted on 15-Jul-2008 15:32:04
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@Hans

Bump. Anyone else? IIRC, ACube were going to talk about their future plans at this event. So what are they?

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