@peroxidechicken

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If OS4 found it's way onto something like CherryPal (or heaven forbid, the Efika) I'd try that too.

CherryPal sounds like a color for a Gibson SG.

Seriously, though I am hoping for something with a bit more power as the next platform.

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@Rogue

Personaly I would see support for a broader hardware base to start with.
I've got a couple of Peg2's and Mac mini's here, I would gladly pay more than 99 EUR + VAT to be able to run OS4 on any of them.

I'm sure I'm not the only one in the same situation, since it feels a little awkward to step down from 1 GHz+ G4 CPU to something half that speed to be able to run it now.

Well, that's just my thought so...

@Develin

People have managed for years on 68k, the 500MHz and 667MHz will be a big difference in terms of Amiga.
Though yes, the A1 from 6 years ago was 600MHz.

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@Develin

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've got a couple of Peg2's and Mac mini's here, I would gladly pay more than 99 EUR + VAT to be able to run OS4 on any of them.

No arguing with that.

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@Rogue
Cherrypal...that name is worse than apple. Trying to sound a bit to friendly/positive IMHO

Apart from that it's nice compact hardware and also something that could give people a cheap way of trying OS4.x.

I would like to have a CherryPal-OS4 running 24/7 just for using Email, browser and Tunenet. With it's low energy consumption I wouldn't even be feeling bad about having it turned on 24/7, something I won't be doing with my other desktops

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@Earthling

Sure but that is people who still havn't migrated to faster machines for some reasons.
My point is that there is a huge amount of OS4 capable machines out there which can be bought for peanut moneys and still be a lot faster than the current fastest AOne around.
And by supporting that whould let people like me that don't want to downgrade in performance to support the platform.

Mac mini G4 (1.4 or 1.5 GHz) variant can be bought second hand for around 200 EUR.
Go portable with an IBook G4 which is pretty much same hardware wise for around 300 EUR.
And not to forget the Pegasos2 G4 which can be bought for around 200-300 EUR.

Just think about how cool it would be to have OS4 on these machines.

@Rogue

I herby sign me up as a participant when you need a tester for them! ;)

@Rogue

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Seriously, though I am hoping for something with a bit more power as the next platform.

Hello Rogue...
How are chances for Amiga OS on a Cellbased board? I'd love to see that, and it would give the Amiga some wellneeded edge again, setting it apart from a)Intel and b)the losing PPC platform.

I read you have some interest for the Cell-Chip, so maybe you can lose a few words about the possiblities of something like that happening (i gladly admit i don't have any knowledge about these things, so please be kind with me if this wish is too outrageous :) ).

@Develin

Yes you are right I have here a phonograph, ready to play latest Metallica album. I would gladly pay 15 EUR + VAT to be able to listen it on this item.

Just think how cool it would be to have latest Metallica album on this machine...



I would also love to mount those cool Ferrari rims on my Peugeot, or run the latest IPhone app on my Sagem... but that won't happen unless I'm buying the correct hardware the things I want are designed for..

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@abalaban

Well you can get Death Magnit on vinyl so you'll prolly would be able to use it somehow =)
Since when was a machine designed to specifically run AmigaOS ?

Well, I don't need to run OS4, I just wanted to... Well, I'm not going to buy more gear in my allready crowded house so that's why I want it on a machine I allready have that have power for both now and tomorrows applications.

@steril606

Nice avatar :)

I'm intrigued by Andy Warhol's entry in Wikipedia though:

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Warhol used Amiga computers to generate digital art, which he helped design and build with Amiga, Inc..

Really?

@Develin

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Since when was a machine designed to specifically run AmigaOS ?

This is the other way round, AmigaOS works on some elected hardwares (Classic, A1, and now SAM). So if you want to run AmigaOS you should own the hardware it runs on (just like I have to own an IPhone and not a Sagem if I want to run the latest hype app, or a Ferrari and not a Peugeot if I want to mount Ferrari rims, no matter how long and how loud I will bugger Apple and Ferrari until I buy the hardware required I won't be able to use their products).
By the way during Commodore's era machines *were* specifically designed to run AmigaOS there were called 'Amiga's But I guess we were speaking of nowadaysnot about things that was happening more than 14 years ago

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Well you can get Death Magnit on vinyl so you'll prolly would be able to use it somehow =)

I was thinking about this
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@RedMelons

Not sure about the Amiga Inc part, but he worked with the Amiga to create art, thats true.. Just type "Warhol" and "Amiga" into google, you will get a share of pages telling the story... One of the more glorious facts of Amiga history for me, since i am an art nut (and recently cameback Amiga Nut as well )...

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@steril606

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How are chances for Amiga OS on a Cellbased board? I'd love to see that, and it would give the Amiga some wellneeded edge again, setting it apart from a)Intel and b)the losing PPC platform.

If you know a commercially available CELL platform apart from the PS/3, let me know. Yeah I am interested in them, but the only thing available right now is either a PS/3 or a blade server, and both are too expensive IMO (the blade for sure).

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@steril606
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I read you have some interest for the Cell-Chip, so maybe you can lose a few words about the possiblities of something like that happening

According to this OS4.1 review, OS4 is already being tested on PS3 (Cell):
Link to page of review with quote

Some have disputed this claim, however.

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@jorkany
Not true.. I am too lazy too search for the relevant threads, but Rogue has been stating again and again, that this is out of reach at the moment. The PS3 doesn't allow direct control of its graphic capabilities, and you can only access the framebuffer (if i read and understood correctly)

@Rogue
I hoped somebody at ACube is already sitting down somewhere and seeing into developing something in this kind of direction . I guess a Cell-based motherboarddesign is too far away seeing how small the target audience is currently though.
Thanks for your reply and your overall good job on OS 4.1. Keep on rocking, man...!

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@Rogue

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Seriously, though I am hoping for something with a bit more power as the next platform.

I understand that the OS4 developers have to choose their platforms carefully - they can't just support everything. Even though there is (was?) a 400MHz Sam, the CherryPal is still interesting for it's size and price - especially considering that a case is included. Another thing about the low end of the cpu/memory spectrum is that it makes the OS look good when it still flys on it.

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@steril606

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@jorkany Not true.. I am too lazy too search for the relevant threads, but Rogue has been stating again and again, that this is out of reach at the moment. The PS3 doesn't allow direct control of its graphic capabilities, and you can only access the framebuffer (if i read and understood correctly)

jorkany already knew that. In fact he linked to HJF's quotes on that topic from moobunny on September 24th.

source

Please note his direct link, which proves he already read the statements from HJF. He's just doing erm...the usual.

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@Rogue

What about the G5?
Is it out of the question now? There exist "quite" cheap quad core (dual 970MP)
servers which motherboards could be interesting?! Alot cheaper than Cell
and with good performance with PCIe 16x, SATA, USB2 etc.

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The high end is pretty interesting too.

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