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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 11-Apr-2010 21:01:57
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But, I agree, I am an idiot for trying to make them do something they promised.
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No, your an idiot for trying to force them to uphold an (informal) agrreement with a now defunct company. A deal you had no part in (and therefore can't claim damages).
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 11-Apr-2010 22:37:07
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"Matrox is always pleased to have an opportunity to assist in developing third party products," says Alain Thiffault, product manager, Matrox Graphics. "Amiga has a history of offering a solid platform and we’re happy to provide resources for their future products."
That press release doesn't explicitly state that Matrox were going to write drivers for OS4 or any other Amiga product. Providing resources most likely refers to making development documentation available to Amiga Inc so they could make the drivers themselves. This would certainly make the most sense as Matrox would not have had any previous experience of Amiga OS development.
Anyway who cares about Matrox, their hardware has comparable performance to low end Radeon 9000 series cards and costs 4 times the price.
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 12-Apr-2010 19:20:38
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| @Kronos KR>No, your an idiot for trying to force them to uphold an (informal) agrreement KR>with a now defunct company. A deal you had no part in (and therefore can't KR>claim damages).
No I will not sue them, since as you say we cannot see wether there was some kind of contract, plan etc.
In reality, I would like them to support the OS.
What is the point having open component system (finally) and no supported hardware?
You may dislike my idiot system of communication, but I dislike both defunct and alive companies giving big promises that they cannot uphold or do not intend to realise.
On a long run SAM is under the same Zicco specs and is AmigaOS compatibile computer.
Problem 1 is that I cannot give the SAM boards and OS so we could equip the Matrox develeper team with needed SW and HW.
Market is so small they will not buy it from Acube and Amikit, as they dont see driver development as commercialy viable. Hell, they dont support x86 Linux even!
It will not grow without hardware manufacturer support, but they will not support it until its big enough.
And there are not too many manufacturers of OSes and components anyway ...
So, its just Intel and Windows. Enjoy it, and please keep calling me idiot
Until then, I am so sad Matrox is so dumb and unwilling, not me.
P.S. I can bet if we could get couple dozens of people to test the PPC cards, they would not even give the cards to test on.
Its so good being idiot is not a sin, neither is illegal.
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 12-Apr-2010 19:21:47
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No, it sais they are strategic partner with Amiga (who was developing AmigaOS even at that time) and Zicco specs sais default new gfx card is Matrox.
So it potentialy tells even much more.
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 12-Apr-2010 20:35:57
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I am sorry, if I was Canadian
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 12-Apr-2010 20:47:18
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Someone elsewhere explained it in the same way, as South Park: BLAME CANADA
But interesting outcome of this thread is that it seems no one gives a care to test a new GFX card and drivers.
I do not know of any boards and software and any cooperations with any company on having more drivers (even for PPC Linux only).
So, now I see, we will have a plenty of hardware supported by itself. Magically and instantly
So. then why not having less buggy but well integrated chips and chipset dependencies again? _________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 13-Apr-2010 7:02:59
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I don't see why I should go and shell out £100-£150 on a video card that offers little performance increase over the card I already have, just to test out some drivers on an OS that I don't even use.
If Matrox is so important to then why don't you buy one of their cards?
Or if you really want to help towards getting better video cards supported then you could always visit http://hdrlab.org.nz/ and make a donation. |
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 13-Apr-2010 8:18:03
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Someone elsewhere explained it in the same way, as South Park: BLAME CANADA
But interesting outcome of this thread is that it seems no one gives a care to test a new GFX card and drivers. (SNIP)
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 13-Apr-2010 18:07:29
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Good. But it will take some more times until we get a fully usefull RadeoHD and tested EP460 and functionaly OS 4.1.1 (I hope end of this year).
And then you will miss real OpenGL even more ...
And I am eager and willing to do so, but everything is OK.
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Re: What about Matrox Posted on 13-Apr-2010 21:07:33
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