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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 1-Sep-2012 17:57:35
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@ChrisH

I never had problems with Aquaria, but I don't use either X1000 nor Wazp3D.

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
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In the Warpz3D archive are the StormMesa libraries which allow you to run the StormMesa demos from cli by clicking on programs in the exe drawers.
cool .

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
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OK, I was wrong. I updated to the latest Wazp3D, and it's Prefs program STILL forgets my (global) settings after a reboot. This makes Wazp3D very annoying, because it means I must remember to set "Render=Compositing2D" before using any new 3D app, otherwise it will be extremely slow... or won't even work at all.

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 2-Sep-2012 12:23:34
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The prefs work for me. Saving a Wazp3D.cfg in each individual program directory.are you sure you updated the Wazp3d-prefs ? Version is 53.2 ,

From the readme :

It is recommended to use Wazp3D-Prefs BEFORE starting your-3d-program for the first time
you can also use Wazp3D-Prefs when your-3d-program is running (so impossible with screen-blankers)
But as Wazp3D now save/read the Prefs you may encouter problems if the settings were not good
when your-3d-program was first started (typically using a too slow "renderer:soft to bitmap" option)
In this case the better is to delete the file Waz3D.cfg in your-3d-program directory
Then start Wazp3D-Prefs. Set your favorite settings. Close Wazp3D-Prefs. Start your-3d-program
In Wazp3D-Prefs all options with a '+' like "+Renderer:hard" are intended to be setted
BEFORE starting your-3d-program for the first time
If you change such an option during play then it will only have effect next time
(ie when modified Waz3D.cfg will be read )


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OK, I was wrong. I updated to the latest Wazp3D, and it's Prefs program STILL forgets my (global) settings after a reboot. This makes Wazp3D very annoying, because it means I must remember to set "Render=Compositing2D" before using any new 3D app, otherwise it will be extremely slow... or won't even work at all.

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 2-Sep-2012 12:49:11
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@Spectre660
I am NOT talking about "per program" settings, I am talking about the initial "global" settings of Wazp3D, before any program has been run.

(Note: It seems that those settings maybe aren't really "global", but it would still be damn useful to specify some sensible Wazp3D "defaults" for use after each reboot by any new 3D programs I try.)

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 2-Sep-2012 13:21:25
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@ChrisH

I think that that is the problem. There seems to be no global settings.
So our perception of what it should do may be wrong.

From the Changelog .
I would think that "local" means individual for each program in this context.


Beta 52.1
o Now automatically write/read Wazp3D-Prefs settings in a local Wazp3D.cfg file

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 2-Sep-2012 13:29:47
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Place a Wazp3D.cfg file in the same drawer than its prefs program.
Each time you run a 3d program, this config file will be used.

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 2-Sep-2012 13:33:14
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@petrol


You just beat me to it. while I was rebooting to try this. .
There is something very consistent in the way Amiga software functons .


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Place a Wazp3D.cfg file in the same drawer than its prefs program.
Each time you run a 3d program, this config file will be used.

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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 3-Sep-2012 14:11:35
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@Spectre660
>I must remember to set "Render=Compositing2D" before using any new 3D app

1) Just load ANY 3D program that is well configured (ie that have Wazp3D.cfg file in his local directory ) then those settings will be used for "any new 3D app"
(as a new app dont have yet a Wazp3D.cfg So it will just inherit the current settings loaded with the first program....)

2) You can also get a working Wazp3D.cfg somewhere and just copy it to to the "new 3D app" directory before starting it

BTW default is set to "renderer:soft to bitmap" because it is the MORE Warp3D-compatible option (but too slow on a ppc Amiga)


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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
Posted on 3-Sep-2012 14:29:23
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@thellier

Thanks for the response. Should be directed at ChrisH who is huffing and puffing .
The way Wazp3D config files work makes a lot of sense and is a good way to enable per programs settings.

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>I must remember to set "Render=Compositing2D" before using any new 3D app

1) Just load ANY 3D program that is well configured (ie that have Wazp3D.cfg file in his local directory ) then those settings will be used for "any new 3D app"
(as a new app dont have yet a Wazp3D.cfg So it will just inherit the current settings loaded with the first program....)

2) You can also get a working Wazp3D.cfg somewhere and just copy it to to the "new 3D app" directory before starting it

BTW default is set to "renderer:soft to bitmap" because it is the MORE Warp3D-compatible option (but too slow on a ppc Amiga)


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Re: New Wazp3D lib released
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@thellier Quote:
You can also get a working Wazp3D.cfg somewhere and just copy it to to the "new 3D app" directory before starting it

I am afraid you are missing my point. I don't want to have to go to the trouble of having to remember which 3D apps I have not yet configured, and then go to the trouble of copying settings (or setting it up).

Wazp3D clearly has some initial (aka default) settings it uses when there is no wazp3d.cfg file found. What I want to be able to do is have different defaults (that tend to work for me).

Basically I would like it to work more like how RunInUAE handles game configuration.

Last edited by ChrisH on 03-Sep-2012 at 07:04 PM.
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