@Samurai_Crow

Now your changing your definition.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

That's the legal definition of "compatible". It was defined way back when Compaq reverse-engineered IBM's PC BIOS. It has to be able to run 90% of existing software to be able to call itself compatible.

So far neither OS 4 nor AROS are 90% compatible but we are working on it on the AROS end of things.

@Shufflepuck

Pretty cool. Thanks for the link.

Man this was one of the plans for the "ODW" we had when I was with genesi. To have an open inexpensive stb type game and media box.

There is something about that girl that is the project leader that bugs me. Maybe its the over enthuisastic corporate type messaging..

@realize

Didn't knew you worked with Genesi,
Man the ODW has been the best Amiga-like hardware in years IMHO

Was wondering if someone has any news about their Efika i.MX 61 Project?

@minator

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So why are *all* of the main PPC chip vendors switching to ARM?

ARM is designed for SOCCs and tablets. Its great chip. We should use it. To me, its better to go ARM then x86 - all phones, tablets ... so we would need portable versions of our 3 flavours to spread.

PPC is 2nd in heavy category of raw power. Server chips, supercomputers and such. Its no way dead yet, its recovering in SOCC category, but not a dominant one there, and is dead in desktop, thanks to Apple. But yes, MOS and OS4 boards and users indicate difference even there, as well as Linux PPC users.

So please, less BS and trolling

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@Samurai_Crow

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Nowadays nothing == Amiga except 20 year old hardware with 68k processors. Anything newer is only partly Amiga. For example an AmigaOne != Amiga because it requires Picasso96 compatibility. MorphOS != Amiga for similar reasons regarding CyberGraphX. At least AROS 68k can run on real Amiga 68k hardware. _________________

None is Amiga hardware, all is software successor in developers and components, SO PLEASE ... We are Amigans of today - Classics users, MOS users, OS4 users, AROS users, UAE users of any kind. No one is more Amigan!

(only exception to the rule are iContain / C-USA products, nothing but a sticky sticker or engravement)

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@thread

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Ouya: Asked for $950k, Got $8.6 Million The Kickstarter campaign for Ouya, a new Android-powered home console that we've covered extensively in previous weeks, has finally come to a close with a spectacular grand total of $8,596,475. Clearly significantly more than its original $950,000 goal. A total of 63,416 users have donated to the project, which promises to have consoles out "by March 2013." On Thursday, Ouya creators announced that the console would support four controllers and that Namco Bandai would support the system. The publisher said it is currently in "active discussions" to bring some of its properties to Ouya, though none were named. Given that the firm already publishes PAC-CHOMP! (yes, all-caps just like a Linkin Park song name) Sky Gamblers: Rise Of Glory, and Flight Control for Android, it seems safe to assume that they'll probably start there. In addition to Namco Bandai, Ouya creators have partnered with streaming giant OnLive, and Square Enix, which will have Final Fantasy III available (in "HD") for the console at launch.

source

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Thanks for the update!

Oculus Rift + OUYA would be a nice combo, he he..

@Samurai_Crow

I don’t know how compatible it is on classic hardware, there has not been any inquiry about that before, but it should not be that bad.

If we exclude the games that where designed to load from kickstart 1.3, and disable multitasking, or WHDLoad stuff, I don’t think it’s that bad.

And also does that 90% accumulative or does only have to be 90% compatible whit previous version of the OS? I mean software written for AmigaOS3.9 :-b or software written for AmigaOS1.0.

I’m just saying because Windows7 is 0% compatible whit windows 1.0 application, and you need command line in windows is not compatible whit MSDOS anymore you need DosBOX even on Windows.

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@vox

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So please, less BS and trolling

BS and trolling? really?

IBM appear to have given up selling chips and only sell systems or custom chips. They haven't announced anything ARM related but they do have their logo on the bottom of the Linaro.org home page.

That leaves you 3 companies: Applied Micro (aka AMCC), Freescale and LSI. They're the only people doing high end PowerPC parts you can actually buy.

Of those 3 companies, 3 of them have announced plans for ARM parts in the last year.

There are some smaller companies doing PPCs but they only do low end parts.

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@minator

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BS and trolling? really? IBM appear to have given up selling chips and only sell systems or custom chips. They haven't announced anything ARM related but they do have their logo on the bottom of the Linaro.org home page.

Yes, BS. 3 manufacturers are 3 manufacturers. There are barely 3 x86 manufacturers in the world left.

But IBM hasn`t stopped developing or producing PPC even if its for its own needs, and you can buy full systems, so how can you call POWER7 or Cell dead, when half of current IBM supercomputer is based on it?

So in the end PPC is still number#2 its just not mass marketed. And as well as PS3 is still best console avail, so yes, so far its BS.

Its not that we don`t agree that PPC is dead end and that they missed chances with Linux, Android, tablets, phones and SOCCs.

But first two PPC killers were Microsoft with ceasing PPC support on NT while keeping PPC licence (see newer XBOX), IBM with failure of OS/2 and Apple with abandoning its previously claimed superior ahitecture to earn more money while not making x86 OS for all. So it has more roots in the past then in now.

When PPC becomes as dead as 68k, we`ll agree.
And yes, I agree its time to start transition at last to ARM now.

P.S.
Since both MOS and OS4 are for now attached to PPC sounds like CUSA trolling why to buy overpriced x86

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@vox

Actually, PPC is in similar position to 68K/Coldfire. They're both gone from desktops and mainly survive in the embedded market. But both ARM, MIPS and x86 are gaining more and more market share and it's only a matter of time before PPC folds... most companies are abandoning PPC for ARM...

@Amiga_3k

It the Android equivalent to Apple TV.

@Pendergast

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Actually, PPC is in similar position to 68K/Coldfire.

Not as long as it still has high end server chips, but will be.

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Ouya is now for sale. I guess you can say the market is that crowded and competitive. Plus they allegedly made mistakes. People wanting to make a console should think about it because you can't compete with Xbox, Sony or Nintendo plus all those other smartphones.

Former Kickstarter darling Ouya is up for sale: Report

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/204480-report-ouya-needs-a-buyer-on-the-double

@Shufflepuck

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Shufflepuck wrote: Interesting concept, hopefully it will also see the light of day. "built to be hacked": http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/2/3134004/ouya-a-99-hackable-android-game-console-designed-by-yves-behar http://angel.co/ouya#overview Why on earth AMIGA Inc. does not think about projects like these (Raspberry Pi comes to mind, for example) to revive the Brand? Well, I just answered myself after 1 second. Doh.

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@Chuckt

Wow! They raised US$ 25 millions and now they need to sell all their assets to repay debts?

With just 10 millions we had had led Amiga again mainstream by selling el cheapo tiny amiga motherboards little as Raspberries produced by the community...

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@Raffaele

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With just 10 millions we had had led Amiga again mainstream by selling el cheapo tiny amiga motherboards little as Raspberries produced by the community...

I seriously doubt that

@Raffaele

Yep.

It is getting too hard to compete and one misstep and a company can be done.