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Spectre660 
Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 11-Jul-2013 12:30:01
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I would expect that they have been working on something so if they hold back they would loose any development cost for that project.

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Acube should hold out until they can use a T-series QorIQ. Design a board for the T1, for instance the T1022 has the same cores as the P5020, and there's an upgrade path within same footprint to the P2081 which has Altivec. To me, that's a no-brainer. Less work to use a core that's already going to be supported by OS4 (sharing porting costs), upgrade path means Hyperion can begin porting to the e6500 immediately.

In my firm opinion. I don't see a point in feigning humility here. However, I respect ACube to have their own opinion

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 21:37:04
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Maybe the M stands for MCB?

Todays post on the ACube facebook:

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Thanks to MCB and Trevor for the nice meeting today in Udine! It was great to talk with you about the future. See you soon!

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 13-Jul-2013 22:02:31
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Who (or what) is MCB?

Edit: Michael C. Battilana from Cloanto?

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Trevor mentioned at VCF that he'd be meeting with the Acube guys this week.

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 20-Dec-2013 9:16:29
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@thread

Just to make it clear and end this thread. The File#3 is the Minimig Plus.

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 22-Dec-2013 21:17:03
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Just to make it clear and end this thread. The File#3 is the Minimig Plus.


Cool! Glad to hear it may continue to be developed....

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 23-Dec-2013 11:20:10
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I wonder if it is possible to develop superb easy to use retrogaming box around minimig+, get crowd funding for polishing it & prepare SW and run production of a few thousand units....

And the case: http://obligement.free.fr/gfx/boitier_minimig_a1000_prototype_1.jpg



Or house it inside xarcade style joystick.

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
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With our experience from designing and assembling the new Arcade Evolution Amiga Joystick, it is certainly something we could do.

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
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Oh man, I would buy a minimig(+) in that case in a heartbeat. It looks awesome!

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@all

A couple of photos from the current Minimig Plus board:

Minimig Plus Mainboard

Minimig Plus CPU

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
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A couple of photos from the current Minimig Plus board:



Minimig with accelerator, USB and Ethernet, it has been possible for yea most resources where available. I just wondered why no one did it before.

- I hope Acube has some success with it.
- I hope Acube will publish all resources as Open Source (it would not been possible without it)
- I hope others will follows (maybe with more advanced projects)

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
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A couple of photos from the current Minimig Plus board:
Minimig Plus CPU


66 MHz, 10.8 MIPS CPU; 68030@50 MHz performance for minimig

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 5-Apr-2014 6:16:40
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66 MHz, 10.8 MIPS CPU; 68030@50 MHz performance for minimig


Not quite. The 68030@50MHz is 18 MIPS and has more powerful instructions. Most AGA games need the 68020 ISA and won't work with the 68000 Dragonball. It would have been a lot more interesting if they had gone with the Fido CPU and it's CPU32 ISA instead. Fido has single cycle traps so it might have acceptable speed at emulating missing 68020 instructions and addressing modes. I hope the price of the Minimig+ is below the fpgaArcade or it will have a difficult time competing even if the CPU power is comparable on paper. It looks like the fpga Amiga clone wars are heating up though. I couldn't read the fpga on the MiniMig+ because it was fuzzy. Is that a Cyclone II?

Edit: No it's probably a Xilinx Spartan fpga again.

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 5-Apr-2014 9:43:16
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66 MHz, 10.8 MIPS CPU; 68030@50 MHz performance for minimig


Not quite. The 68030@50MHz is 18 MIPS and has more powerful instructions. Most AGA games need the 68020 ISA and won't work with the 68000 Dragonball.


So this CPU is like a 68000 but a lot faster? And is the Minimig Plus going to be AGA compatible anyway, or is it still OCS or ECS display modes (with some "Mega Agnus" to support 8MB chip RAM)?

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 5-Apr-2014 12:30:28
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66 MHz, 10.8 MIPS CPU; 68030@50 MHz performance for minimig


Not quite. The 68030@50MHz is 18 MIPS and has more powerful instructions. Most AGA games need the 68020 ISA and won't work with the 68000 Dragonball. It would have been a lot more interesting if they had gone with the Fido CPU and it's CPU32 ISA instead. Fido has single cycle traps so it might have acceptable speed at emulating missing 68020 instructions and addressing modes. I hope the price of the Minimig+ is below the fpgaArcade or it will have a difficult time competing even if the CPU power is comparable on paper. It looks like the fpga Amiga clone wars are heating up though. I couldn't read the fpga on the MiniMig+ because it was fuzzy. Is that a Cyclone II?

Edit: No it's probably a Xilinx Spartan fpga again.


18 MIPS are the theoretical maximum; Amiga 030 accelerators (at least the A1200 ones) have benchmarks of around 10 MIPS. Yes, 10.8 mips of the dragon ball cpu are theoretical also, but is prudent to think that on a modern design with faster ram and with none of the Amiga 30 years design bottlenecks, the dragonball CPU would perform at very near of the maximum theoretical.
Of course it not have 030 instructions (have dragonball custom instructions not prsent on another 68k cpu?) but 68000 optimized code will perform almost identical on both CPU. Of course 030 optimized code on a 68030 will outperform a dragonball running 68000 code. All of this is only speculation for my part at seeing the specs

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 6-Apr-2014 15:49:59
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@matthey

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Edit: No it's probably a Xilinx Spartan fpga again.

The exact model is Xilinx Spartan XC3S700A:

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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files
Posted on 6-Apr-2014 22:29:29
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Any videos of Minimig+ ? info eta review ?

It would be great if Minimig+ is in Commodore USA Amiga case :)

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Posted on 6-Apr-2014 22:39:23
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Perhaps it is a way to spell Mystery with two "y's"

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