@Morphix

How is your setup? I mean with the HD, alone on cable or shared?

Your cable, is it a UDMA cable and do you have UDMA activated? Usually it would be off by default.

If your IDE disk is simple it should at least have a jumper for master or slave. This should be set correctly. As well as the cable cornected the correct way. For a single device master setting on standard cable the long end goes to the IDE port and the other end to the drive. Two drive plugs will be together and the rest is the long section. But check this doc to compare:
Documentation/IDE/sii0680ide_dev.doc

If you are able to boot then to disable onboard IDE open Prefs/UBoot. Goto IDE ports tab. And for Onboard IDE set Active bus to Disabled.

Otherwise you should be able to disable it from UBoot itself in the menu system. In there somwehere. I take it you already set it to boot off Parallel IDE?

@Hypex

The Hd is alone on cable.

The Hard Disk I tried disconnecting the old one and get this one on the cable and molex of course has no jumper, believe it or not.

I am going to find another bard disk and test ad I will meep you posted.

Have tried to play with both sil0680_timeout and a1ide_timeout envs both from
Uboot prefs and on from console with no success, I even disabled a1ide on uboot prefs, nothing, still there is a bus scanning on drive 0 for almost half a min.

Will keep on searching in tbe docs, but the big deal is to have a new bard disk detected by the lady.

Tests in progress, keep you posted and thanks for the replies.

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@Morphix

I disabled both onboard ide ports from uboot and used 0680 exclusivelly.

Same time you can narrow source of problems and tacle them one by one.

Generally one should allways use flat cable with 80 wires and put right way. Controller end to controller and master device to end, not middle.

Last edited by mlehto on 25-Oct-2013 at 11:09 AM.

@mlehto

I have everything a1ide disable from Uboot prefs on OS4. However I think this does not make a change. Tried also the timeout setting straight form the console to make the bus scanning time sorter, but no success. I would try to find the env in order to disable both a1ide FROM console. If someone is aware of them and their syntax please let me know.

I will get another hard disk this afternoon and check.

Yes I got one straight cable, hard disk to controller only, nothing in the middle.

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@Morphix

Quote:

The Hard Disk I tried disconnecting the old one and get this one on the cable and molex of course has no jumper, believe it or not.

Yes I can as I've never seen a Molex with a jumper! Oh you mean the HD? Is it master by default? Nothing on PCB underneath?

Does the old one work with your new set up?

Quote:

I even disabled a1ide on uboot prefs, nothing, still there is a bus scanning on drive 0 for almost half a min.

Something is up there. It's possible UBoot Prefs has a bug. It can't restore a saved config perfectly.

Check for these with NVGetVar in OS4 or on UBoot CLI:
a1ide_maxbus=0
ide_maxbus=0

I have onboard disabled here.

Last edited by Hypex on 26-Oct-2013 at 04:17 PM.

@Hypex


Quote:

Yes I can as I've never seen a Molex with a jumper! Oh you mean the HD? Is it master by default? Nothing on PCB underneath?

LOL I mean the HD of course haha!

Thanks for the reply, will test asap!

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upfate:

tried:

setenv a1ide_conf=
setenv a1ide_maxbus=0
setenv ide_maxbus=0
saveenv

on uboot CLI

Bus 0 scanning still counts, but for an unknown to me reason the second device setting, on my uboot boot sequence is erased. What I mean?

I have set first device to be the Sil Paralel CD-ROM, second device to be the Sil paralel Hard Disk. After this the second slot of the boot sequence -on uboot menu prefs- remains empty and I got to go and re set the Hard disk.

EDIT: same if I play with sli0680ide_timeout -setting it to 5-.

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@Morphix

It can onboard ide timeout env-variable: a1ide_timeout (legal between 1 and 30, 0 no accepted)

I drove myself sometimes to deadend in uboot and I reset variables to factory default.

Here is some incomplete info about uboot:

http://www.intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=uboot

If my memory serves me right, my uboot is something like that:

a1ide_maxbus 0
a1ide_timeout 1 (legal between 1 and 30)
a1ide_conf 0



Then to 0680

sii0680ide_maxbus 2
sii0680ide_timeout 30 (default 20)
sii0680ide_conf 1000 ( primary master is hd)
sii0680ide_xfer F000 (primary master is UDMA5, 100 mbs)
sii0680ide_irq I never used.


And of course saveenv :)

Ide driver docs come with OS4 CD, but you can find them allso from os4depot.

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=driver/storage/ide_driverpack.zip

Hope that this helps.

@mlehto

Should I use the = in the env settings or not?

For example should I use:


Setenv sil0680ide_maxbus 2

Or


Setenv sil0680ide_maxbus=2

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@Morphix

If you use Setenv sil0680ide_maxbus=2

If I remember correctly, it will show in uboot sil0680ide_maxbus.

It wont work...

You need to type Setenv sil0680ide_maxbus 2

And it will show itself Setenv sil0680ide_maxbus=2 ...

This is bit odd, because normal human behaviour is sil0680ide_maxbus=2

And yes, I reset uboot to factory defaults couple of times because of that.

You can remove them entry by entry just typing in this case setenv sil0680ide_maxbus. But if you list contents of uboot to monitor, you dont see everything anyway. So i made reset to defaults.

I dont have my SE in hand, so cant check.

Uboot is not most user friendly system, but it does its work. Same stands to Peg2 OF, but it is another story. Non-amiga way but works.

@Morphix

It was advised, that in 0680 controller primary master is HD and CD/DVD is allways in second ide channel.

If one has three HD and one DVD HDs are primary master/slave secondary master and DVD is sec slave.

This is actually old IDE clue(less) thingy.

In A1driver it has something, that channel 1 was one process and channel 2 was other.

Dunno if it is changed later. In 3114 all SATA ports are separated.

It is good to follow that anyway.

If you use sli0680ide_timeout 5- , you drive yourself to troubles, I bet that uboot is not secured values outside of presumed.

Last edited by mlehto on 25-Oct-2013 at 08:57 PM.

@Morphix

Quote:

LOL I mean the HD of course haha!

Quote:

I have set first device to be the Sil Paralel CD-ROM, second device to be the Sil paralel Hard Disk.

I have the same, my last two bootsources are empty or none. Some more vars I have:

bootcmd=menu; run menuboot_cmd
preboot=
ide_doreset=on
ide_cd_timeout=30
menucmd=menu
bootmethod=boota
a1ide_conf=
a1ide_maxbus=0
menuboot_cmd=
ide_maxbus=0
ide_swap=0
boot1=psiicdrom
boot2=psii
boot3=
boot_config=Default
boot_method=boota

@Hypex

Thanks will check those.

I have test those values that mlehto provided me, thanks!

Quote:

a1ide_maxbus 0 a1ide_timeout 1 a1ide_conf 0 Then to 0680 sii0680ide_maxbus 2 sii0680ide_timeout 30 sii0680ide_conf 1000 sii0680ide_xfer F000

Bus 0 scanning still runs for half a minute :(

Will check the values that Hypex provided me, thanks!


General question: I have made a 4.1.1 fresh install on my HD as we speak.

I am ussing the sil0680 pci controller.

and have -hopefully- disabled the a1ide through uboot console.

Should I install the IDE Fixes update from Hyperion's site?

I remember that it copies some updated drivers for a1ide sil0680 it is form 2009.

Or those drivers are copied on the other OS updates as well?

Last edited by Morphix on 26-Oct-2013 at 05:29 PM.
Last edited by Morphix on 26-Oct-2013 at 05:29 PM.

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@Morphix

I think that 4.1 upd1 is from 2010 so it has newer/same drivers as in ide_quickfix.lha.

And I think that you may reset uboot to defaults and get fresh start

@Morphix

Wait a minute, are you sure it's scanning the onboard controller? Does it print header for onboard controller and then stall? It stalls before getting to the 0680 IDE? Does the 0680 IDE scan complete normally?

@Hypex

Yes it scans the onboard IDE and I had to go from the uboot menu and disable it. It would not be disabled neither by setenv, neither on uboot prefs under OS 4.1.

Scan issue solved,

Will get top you as I am doing some more testings with cables and hard disks.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ylDL7aRaAo

So this is a VERY ROUGH video I have done showing the machine running. It is running non stop since early in the morning (about 5:00) today. No crashes still.

It currently has a PCI USB Card, a PCI Wireless Card, a PCI IDE Controllet card and a PCI Catweasel MK4. The machine is currently have my original hard disk with 4.1.6, I changed cable and no read / write errors, bad blocks. We shall see how it will goes...

So at the same:

It plays video on mplayer
It runs WipeOut 2097
It copies files -a big movie mp4 file- from USB to Hard Disk.
It is on line on Wookiechat through Wireless.
It reads an Amiga 880K through CW.

The most of the hours of the dya it was running just Wookie and no crushes. But the last 4 hours it is in heavy duties like the ones in the video, still no crushes. Also the Screen Blanker does not crash the machine.

What do you think?

Last edited by Morphix on 27-Oct-2013 at 09:32 PM.
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@Morphix

I think that it works.

@mlehto

Thanks! I keep on testing!

Have you guys got any good software that you run to check out stability and or performance status?

Any demo? or any system diagnostic? Or anything?

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@Morphix

Nice that your system start to work :)

Some combination from there maybe:

http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=browse&cat=utility/benchmark

One can allways use Amigas awesome multitasking and start heavy processes

I stress tested system with couple of "MiniGL Cube with benchmarks". It doesnt hurt, if you start rendering with blender at same time?

If you have PCI usb caard, it should be advissable to switch onboard usb of. If you have problems with onboard usb.