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pavlor 
Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:30:31
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@WolfToTheMoon

Did I read it has only one SATA port? So, If I want GFX and more devices, no audio possible?

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
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@Rob

T4240RBD-PB is the part number... it costs 1445 $ on Freescale's web.

The older, more expensive board, has been discontinued.


I think it's a different board that got discontinued.

http://www.freescale.com/products/power-architecture-processors/qoriq-power-architecture-processors/t4240qds-qoriq-t4240-development-system:T4240QDS?&cof=0&am=0&tab=Buy_Parametric_Tab&fromSearch=false

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:36:20
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@pavlor

The board Wolf is referring to only has x4 and x1 phyical slots. While you can get very low end x1 video cards or butcher more powerful cards to fit the x4 slot, it's unlikely that many user would be comfortable with either solution.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:36:51
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@pavlor

Why qould you lose audio?
Besides, I think you can run SATA over Ethernet(it has 4 10 GB/s ports), and I believe there is also flash storage supported onboard.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:38:56
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@Rob

Whats stopping Wolf from producing his own board to these specs ?

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@pavlor

The board Wolf is referring to only has x4 and x1 phyical slots. While you can get very low end x1 video cards or butcher more powerful cards to fit the x4 slot, it's unlikely that many user would be comfortable with either solution.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:39:03
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@Rob

Features
PCI Express x4 connector
PCI Express x8 connector

http://www.freescale.com/products/power-architecture-processors/qoriq-power-architecture-processors/qoriq-t4240-reference-design-board:T4240RDB

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
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@WolfToTheMoon

Apologies for the error but you're still stuck with the same situation regardless.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
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Why qould you lose audio?


I don´t see integrated audio there... maybe via USB?

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:45:53
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Whats stopping Wolf from producing his own board to these specs ?


Money, knowledge and of course willingness.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 20:47:10
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@pavlor

Well, USB is a possibility, but why not use the x4 slot? What else exactly is needed except a GFX card and an audio card? If OS is supporting onboard Ethernet, there is no shortage of ports/slots...

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:08:00
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@WolfToTheMoon

Would you fancy doing this to fit a $200 video card in your x8 slot?

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billt 
Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:17:05
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WolfToTheMoon wrote:
The older, more expensive board, has been discontinued.


Are you sure? I got a t4240-QDS kit less than two weeks ago... The more expensive one... I haven't even had time to plug it in yet.

Last edited by billt on 06-Oct-2015 at 09:21 PM.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:18:52
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@Rob

you don't necessarily need to do that... there are "open-ended" x8 slots that can take x16 cards without any problems... some boards have them, some don't.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:19:55
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The board Wolf is referring to only has x4 and x1 phyical slots. While you can get very low end x1 video cards or butcher more powerful cards to fit the x4 slot, it's unlikely that many user would be comfortable with either solution.


No need to butcher, use an adapter card.

For x1:
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Express-Profile-Extension-PEX1TO162/dp/B0039XPS5W

for x4:
PE003UIA-X http://teledynelecroy.com/protocolanalyzer/protocoloverview.aspx?seriesid=201

for x8:
PE002UIA-X http://teledynelecroy.com/protocolanalyzer/protocoloverview.aspx?seriesid=201


Or save up for the bigger one like I did. (only took 4 years to do so...)

Last edited by billt on 06-Oct-2015 at 09:43 PM.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:20:51
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@billt

yes. you're correct, a different board has been discontinued.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:22:49
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@WolfToTheMoon

So you either cut the slots and lose warranty or get Freescale to do a small (read expensive) run of boards with open slots.

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billt 
Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:23:18
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How recently was it discontinued? Did I get the last one? I ordered about a month ago, I'm not even yet to the advertized 8 weeks lead time to delivery yet, but it came earlier than I expected.

I pondered for a while the RDS one, but decided that I did want more PCIe than that.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:26:13
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@Rob

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So you either cut the slots and lose warranty or get Freescale to do a small (read expensive) run of boards with open slots.


If I were king, all motherboards would have open-ends for smaller lane slots, and nothing in the way behind them... Or to use x16 plastics even if only some lanes are connected. (I've never seen anything with a x32 connector anywhere, so don't see any need to standardize on bigger than x16) I don't understnand why to "force" matching lane cards or the use of extra adaptors, which may or may not make things too tall for the case...

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 6-Oct-2015 21:26:16
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@Rob

it's cheaper and perfectly safe to cut the pins from the cards(if the boards does not have open x8 slot). It's been done numerous times on PCs, it works, no problem.

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Re: AmigaOne X5000 News Update
Posted on 7-Oct-2015 23:06:50
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Linux Software Rasterizer on the Sam460ex is ok under LXDE and Mate.
Only Lubuntu 14.04 seems sluggish.Newer Lubuntu versions are ok.
As is Debian.

Kernels support the Sam460ex onchip memory and dma engine .

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Btw.. Is it true hat Linux runs faster than morphos on a Sam460?
Crazy..

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