How about the 030?

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@Deniil715

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Deniil715 wrote: @Chuckt Quote: Put your router next to the microwave in your house and turn your microwave on. It usually knocks out our WIFI temporarily. A chip has to stand up to magnetic radiation in order for it to continue working in combat. That's not because the chip isradiated but because the microwave own uses the same frequency as WiFi, but the owen is a couple of thousand times more powerful (though most of that should be contained).

Exactly - this is an effect of jamming, something not even military technology can escape. Military protocols and equipment are capable of tolerating some kinds of jamming but not a radio source on the same frequency band producing noise several times stronger than the radio link.

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Space radiation also consists of high energy/velocity particles that can knock out a transistor if its hit dead on, of give a blink in the eye if the retina is hit. No normal radiation on earth does that.

There are places on earth with high intensity radiation. Some people have experienced it too. Once.

@Chuckt

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Chuckt wrote: @g01df1sh Quote: g01df1sh wrote: @Zylesea Maybe not Amiga tech but why use 68K not x86 something tells me 68k is more reliable don't wont your euro fighter falling out the sky due to cpu error lol Most people don't know the chips were developed for the space program and specifically to be able to function under radiation from space. The government sold the technology to the private sector.

Which chips are you talking about?!? What technology are you talking about?!?

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Will signals still go through regular chips if they are exposed to radiation and what do you want to depend on in harsher environments like war?

That doesn't make any sense at all. Yes signals will go through regular chips exposed to radiation, radiation hardening isn't about making signal routing reliable.

Military specifications doesn't imply radiation hardening, it just is a list of specifications that a device have to fulfill to be used in a certain application. Often extended working temperatures are the big difference.

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@OneTimer1

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OneTimer1 wrote: @Chuckt Quote: Chuckt wrote: @iggy The 68000 was on the Space Shuttle because they had a radiation hardened version According to this list no 68000 was used on the space shuttle. http://www.cpushack.com/space-craft-cpu.html

A lot of computer history is lost. The fact that people gave up building their own computers with circuit boards and writing their own languages should tell you what people are interested in.

@Chuckt

I am not going to test or put any of my equipment next to a microware just to see if the signal drops out, but I think the latest WI-FI ac standard is supposed to avoid or improve on this.

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@delshay

By improving the beamforming and dropping support for the 2.4GHz band, you could say it'll probably improve microwave oven tolerance.

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@Yasu

How about an 080?

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@olegil

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olegil wrote: @delshay By improving the beamforming and dropping support for the 2.4GHz band, you could say it'll probably improve microwave oven tolerance.

2.4Ghz has not been dropped In the latest Wi-Fi standard ac. It's there in the software you can enable it in the advance settings. (Default is 5Ghz only here when installing software).

I upgrade my laptop by swapping the old Wi-Fi card in the mini PCI-e slot which I think most laptop from 2006 should have.

5Ghz is more responsive, but is no quicker here as I need to upgrade to a faster network.

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@Chuckt

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Chuckt wrote: The 68000 was on the Space Shuttle because they had a radiation hardened version

I have found some sources about the usage of 68k CPUs on the main engine management system in space shuttles. The source also told about the later replacement by DSPs.

I don't think this could be a reason for a new production run of CPUs, because the Space Shuttle and its engines are not produced any more and because they switched to DSP.

@Yasu

A 68030 style CPU would be perfect, most accelerators on AMIGA used it, providing good compatibility, price and performance. Sadly this CPU is out of production and I don't know if it could be replaced with a Dragonball MCU (68030 style CPU with onboard I/O)

Some improved versions of the 68000 are still in production (see ACube's Minimig) but they are not pin compatible with former versions and some AGA programs used 68020 commands and will crash without full 020 support.

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