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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 19-Jun-2017 23:59:19
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@number6

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Hyperion's euipo ... filing status ... now reads: Application published


Great, that means the opposition period has opened! Wonder if Cloanto knows, or should someone tell them?


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Surveillance letter sent from euipo June 15, 2017.


Oh, I suppose they already know then... Great service BTW!


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no new filings for AmigaOne either in the U.S., euipo, or Benelux, making a grand total of zero atm, due to refusal of Hyperion Entertainment CVBA filing in the U.S. referred to earlier in this thread.


Not very surprising IMHO, basing new marks on the "Amiga" mark is probably as futile as trying to create a new trademark for televisions like: "Sony TV"...


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Please inform me of any bad links, since this is a lot of material to constantly check.


Thanks for taking the time! Please keep us posted!

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Jun-2017 0:21:41
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@thread

Noticed several other things.

Fast Track payment deficiency from Hyperion Entertainment for both their AmigaOS and Workbench euipo filings.
Note: The Fast Track supposedly gets you to publication phase faster.

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How can I comply with the Fast Track conditions?


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You need to pay upfront: Our examiners can only start examining the application once payment has been completed. Subject to prompt payment and provided that there are no deficiencies at the moment of filing and during the examination of the application, your application will proceed via Fast Track.


More info on Fast Track

In addition, you will also see entries for AmigsOS and Workbench (Benelux) now listed as "accepted"
Prior status (as shown for Hyperion Entertainment current filing for Amiga Forever) was "to be determined".

Please refer to the links given in post #218 (prior page) for confirmation of the above.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Jun-2017 17:45:45
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@thread

Another change from yesterday:

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Hyperion's euipo Amiga Forever filing status "Application filed"

Source post #218 prior page this thread

Today:

Quote:
Application under examination


Reference post #218 prior page for link to confirm.

Amiga Forever filing, in particular, was surmised to be a negotiation ploy by a poster in this thread and by another as being agressive. Now it's actually costing money, as opposed to merely being a filing.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 28-Jun-2017 22:00:32
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@number6

Examination completed on Hyperion's filing for Amiga Forever with euipo.

Hyperion's euipo filing for Amiga Forever

Also note that Hyperion's Benelux filing for Amiga Forever has changed status again to "Accepted"

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 29-Jun-2017 14:44:30
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Same link as above:

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Application published


Hyperion's filing for Amiga Forever with euipo enters opposition phase.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 15:31:44
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@TRIPOS

Another surveillance letter sent.

This time to the Amiga Inc. maildrop for their euipo Amiga mark.

June 29, 2017

And Amigakit in Benelux:

June 28, 2017

Quote:
Opposition period
from 11-07-2017 to 11-09-2017 included


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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 17:22:49
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@number6

Sorry, but after that.

Who is who ?

Who owns what ?

Or, Amiga name don't have owners ?

And finally, who cares ?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 13-Jul-2017 17:39:46
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@ribdevil

who cares?

Every name mentioned in this thread who has filed paperwork because they have a financial and/or other "stakes" in this, everyone involved in their business be they paid or volunteer, every lawyer involved be they representing a business or an estate, everyone who envisions a different future based on the outcomes. Whew! I'm tired, so I'll stop there.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Aug-2017 19:46:52
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Hyperion has just filed opposition to Cloanto's Workbench trademark

Cloanto euipo Workbench filing

Details listed under "Oppositions"

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 6-Aug-2017 18:56:16
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Another move in Hyperions trademark war effort...

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 6-Aug-2017 19:08:16
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@TRIPOS

I'll add the direct link to "reason", since some people might not know to click on the filing number:

Basis of opposition

You'll note that most of what is being filed is based on the idea that Benelux's earlier filings trump any later filings from anywhere else.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 9-Aug-2017 13:01:17
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@number6

opposition filling is not cheap.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 21-Aug-2017 18:53:22
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@thread

Since the initial opposition phase has just expired (Hyperion opposing Cloanto's EUIPO "Workbench" trademark), I thought I'd post something about the process and what to expect from this point forward:

Summary for the layman

more detailed from EUIPO itself

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 24-Aug-2017 16:11:04
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@thread

It seems I thought Itec's comments were a tad humorous before, given my prior post:

Source

However, it seems appropriate to repeat "I'll bet you do" once again.

Itec LLC (not Hyperion) has filed for an additional extension of 2 months to help them determine whether they will graduate from "potential opposer" (which is all they currently are) to "opposer" with official response.

Source

Go to "Prosecution history" and click the 2 documents dated yesterday for details.

Just in case this is getting confusing for readers...this post is about the magic Amiga trademark, upon which some other trademark filings hinge.
Whereas the prior post offers information about euipo opposition procedure (relevant to the workbench mark for example), for this one you need to consult uspto:
Source

Whereas the first extension (already filed) requires nothing more than a filing, this additional 60 days requires what is termed "good cause". Before you try to read something into that, check the layman's summary about 2nd extension and definition of "good ca\use":
Source

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Posted on 9-Sep-2017 19:35:44
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@thread

Apologies for not keeping up. I actually have better things to do...

Hyperion files another extension

Refer to prior post above and just substitute "Hyperion" for "Itec LLC (not Hyperion)"

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 9-Sep-2017 19:46:35
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In addition a surveillance letter was sent to Amiga Inc. regarding their euipo Amiga trademark at the end of June.

See post #219 (this thread) for description of term.

Some more about the new filing for the euipo Amiga trademark

More on the same topic with comments (German)

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Posted on 10-Sep-2017 6:40:27
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Quote:
More on the same topic with comments (German)


english version (without comments, though)

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 10-Sep-2017 15:33:46
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@Senex

Thank you for adding that. I only offered the link in German because AmigaNews (cgutjahr) had additional comments in that version.

I see reference to Ben Hermans' comments in that comment section, but no further confirmation of those, so...

the comments mentioned

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Posted on 10-Sep-2017 15:39:06
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@thread

Using the address from:

Info on the Amiga trademark filing

There seems to be a match with:

Consumer Protection Party

Can anyone confirm/deny or wish to comment?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 10-Sep-2017 16:36:06
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@thread

Also...courtesy freeamiga...

Amikit

Bah. Click "protocol" to see paperwork.

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