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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 4-Jun-2017 23:16:33
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Not sure what you are implying...

Bugfix update for AmigaOS Workbench 3.1 (40.43)

does contain the link kamelit0 posted.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@number6

Yep, and there is no link where to buy the workbench unless I guess you bought it before and have access to the update in the download area.

Kamelito

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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Yep, and there is no link where to buy the workbench unless I guess you bought it before and have access to the update in the download area.


Technically you are referring to Hyperion's version only which has had all text references to it changed to "Amiga Workbench". (as discussed earlier in this thread)

I'm sure "Workbench" can be purchased elsewhere.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@kamelit0

Good observation!

They have indeed removed the Workbench product!





I guess there has bee some consequences applied to Hyperion's aggressive trademark infringement!



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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@number6

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@kamelit0

Hyperion's version has had all text references to it changed to "Amiga Workbench".


That probably won't be enough, they are obviously still making available to the public/customers a product using the registered "Workbench" trade mark (this picture proves it!):



(2017-06-06, 12.20. Source: http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php/news/1-latest-news/175-bugfix-update-for-workbench-31-4043 )


Big Fail, Hyperion! Get ready for Strike Two!



A second strike regarding abuse and infringement of other entities' trademarks probably won't help their trademark robbing efforts, including their delayment/opposition of Cloanto's Amiga trademark registration...

(Whether or not this also is a case of copyright violation, in other words piracy, remains open. Maybe this will be (or is currently being?) tried by legal institutions as well?)


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I'm sure "Workbench" can be purchased elsewhere.

#6


Yes indeed, you can buy Workbench (version 1.3, 2.1, 3.1 and 3.X) from the owner of the Amiga IP, Cloanto, or its many resellers.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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Ben is no longer a director of Hyperion-Entertainment




I'm sorry but I call bullsh!t on that. It's not like it's the first time Ben Hermans "resigns", and every single time he continues to "manage" Hyperion in various ways, and this time was obviously not an exception. No matter what he say, he is still obviously very much all over Hyperion, just as he always was.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@TRIPOS

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the owner of the Amiga IP, Cloanto,


When did the Amiga IP transfer from the Amiga Parties to Cloanto, where is the news? I wonder how much they paid.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@TRIPOS

You are reading too much into what I stated.

Quote:
Ben is no longer a director of Hyperion-Entertainment

is true.


It is also true that he is still involved:

Quote:
I'm still here

Source

and by the actions we have seen taken by Ben since that comment was made.

Do you really think I would make all the posts in this thread with direct links to documents submitted by Ben and at the same time hold an opinion that he is not involved?!

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@number6

My point was merely that you shouldn't read too much into Ben Hermans statements whenever he says he has "stepped down". He has done it before, and every time he has de-facto continued directing things in practice. This time seems to be no exception.

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@TRIPOS

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=41775&forum=2&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#798535

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@thread

Quick note on status change of 2 filings:

Hyperion's euipo Workbench filing status "Application under examination"

Hyperion's euipo AmigaOS filing status "Application under examination"

by contrast:

Hyperion's euipo Amiga Forever filing status remains "Application filed"

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 12-Jun-2017 10:59:13
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Wow. These millions posts about the ownership of Amiga IPs are really fashinating.



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@paolone

I think it will settle in a few months time...

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@thread

If one continued to check the U.S. Amiga trademark they would see no change in this page:

Quote:
Status: A request for an extension of time to file an opposition has been filed with the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board.

Source

However, if one continued to check Trademark Trial and Appeal Board Inquiry System concerning the U.S. Amiga trademark, they would see some very interesting new information....a 2nd potential opposer.

Quote:
Potential Opposer
Name: Itec, LLC
Correspondence: James T. Hultquist
Reed Smith LLP

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As they say, this makes for a whole new ballgame...

For those who don't know, this is Pentti Kouri's estate, in my very strong opinion.
Additional background info below. Follow the links in the thread below for additional info.

The Closing of Pentti Kouri's Estate

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@number6

I don't want to sound like Keanu Reeves, but "Whoa!".

This will make things more interesting, glad I have popcorn.

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@thread

Quote:
Filing date: 06/05/2017


Quote:
The time within which to file a notice of opposition is set to expire on 06/08/2017


Quote:
- The potential opposer needs additional time to confer with counsel

I'll bet you do...


lol @ Reed Smith

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Posted on 12-Jun-2017 20:36:28
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@number6

Fighting Cloanto for Amiga IP isn't the $3million black hole filling victory Reed Smith are looking for

http://nypost.com/2015/08/15/law-firm-seeks-3m-for-work-on-bankrupt-billionaires-estate/

What a joke. An Amiga Inc. funding crook lives like a billionaire up until his death despite being bankrupt and a law firm is after $3million despite their client being dead and bankrupt!! Crazy world

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@BigD


















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@number6

Quote:

number6 wrote:
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Filing date: 06/05/2017


Quote:
The time within which to file a notice of opposition is set to expire on 06/08/2017


Quote:
- The potential opposer needs additional time to confer with counsel

I'll bet you do...


lol @ Reed Smith

#6


June 5th ?
That's just a couple o' days after my post ...

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=41775&forum=2&start=140&viewmode=flat&order=0#798331

My news was not so fake after all then :-p

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@TRIPOS

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(or those speaking Newspeak: a "window manager"))


No, that would be Intuition.

Workbench is just whatever workbench.library offers.

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