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terminator3 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 5:09:52
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@Rogue

It works. I get 45-46 on cold boot, and 23-26 on reboot (A+A+ctrl). There's still room for more speed, but its quite a difference from what it was before. thanks to all!

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Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 5:36:03
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@terminator3

I get 24 seconds cold and now 8 seconds warm just added c:run etc

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Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 9:03:19
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@Rogue

Hummm...
Perhaps it's time for a Tweaking type off page for OS4....
I know that Intuitionbase has some faq and customizing...But there are some newbies or old timers that don't remember some stuff...

I know...You ain't got time for it...But someone with knowledge..??

Hummm...No....Not me...:)

Ok....It's for developers...I know that to...

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royleith 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 11:04:02
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@gadgetgaz

There is a bug in the pre release Picasso drivers for many video cards including the ATI Radeon 7000. Warm restart works from an 800 x 600 screen, but anything higher freezes the system. The update when its done.

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PulsatingQuasar 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 11:20:13
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@Severin

Quote:
but it's mainly the 'being a beta tester' thing...


Yes, that can do wonders for your AmigaOne.

At the moment it is 50 sec cold boot with 5 sec bootdelay and 2 HD's with CD-ROM drive and CD-RW drive. The CD drives are the guilty party in the 50 sec delay.

It takes 6 sec for Ctrl-Amiga-Amiga kicks in and after 10 sec OS 4 is back.

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elwood 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 14:38:14
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@lionstorm

Quote:
You can do this in parallel by editing your Startup-Sequence to say "C:Run >NIL: AddNetInterface

Take care that if you run some program in your user-startup/WBstartup that needs a working network when they are executed, they may not have it up if you do a "run"...
It depends on your needs...

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emeck 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 16:30:29
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@gadgetgaz

Nop. When it doesn't freeze Workbench,?CTRL+win+win seems to start reboot, but gets a black screen and no disk activity for more than a minute.

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emeck 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 16:43:28
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@royleith

That's the reason then. Thanks for the update.

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SlimJim 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 17:05:23
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@royleith

Odd. I run a Radeon 7000 at 1280x960 and I can warm-reset just fine ...
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tomazkid 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 17:18:48
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@SlimJim

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Odd. I run a Radeon 7000 at 1280x960 and I can warm-reset just fine ..


Same here. I even run at 1600x1280

I think the problem was pointed out in some thread, and being the fact that the Radeon 7000 cards are not identical.
Some non-ATI branded cards (those with just Radeon 7000), had differencies that might be reason.

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A3000T 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 18:14:35
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From: the Netherlands

@terminator3

About 35 seconds for cold boot and
about 5 seconds for warm boot.

If I enable the DHCP connection in the startup
sequence, it will take about 5 seconds longer.

The boottime also depends on what IDE devices
I have connected. I used to have a CD-RW drive
that increased boot time by more then 10 seconds.

Kind regards,

Dennis

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Anonymous 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 29-Aug-2004 18:54:34
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Before "Red Leb" (A1200 Genlock machine) died, it used to boot from cold in 4 seconds.


Snif, I still have it. sniff.. it's red paint has lost it's shine sniff

 
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royleith 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 11:49:45
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@SlimJim

Quote:
Odd. I run a Radeon 7000 at 1280x960 and I can warm-reset just fine


Well, nobody likes a smarty pants!

After repairing OS4.0 after yet another distructive install of classic software, I found that my ATI Radeon 7000 VM 32MB + A1 would warm start from a 1280 x 960 screen. I was so pleased that I tried it successfully several times during a session of some hours.

Then it stopped working. I can't think of even the most outlandish reason why that would happen. Nor the next one.

I copied Pagestream 4.1.5.4 from A4000 to A1 and it worked. I upgraded it to 4.1.5.6 and it still worked. I had problems and deleted everything and reinstalled. It didn't work. I copied the old prefs files; it didn't work. I reinstalled from scratch and copied the old prefs files. It worked. I saved a full copy complete with User-startup segments in another place. I needed to ensure that the original latest version files were in place so I installed them over the top of a working installation and copied the prefs from the working installation. It would not run. I deleted all and reinstalled and copied the prefs files. It would not run. I deleted everything reinstalled and ran as installed. It would not run. I deleted everything and copied the old folders and script from the working OS4.0 backup. It would not run.

By 'would not run' I mean it generates a GrimReaper report of a failure and damage to the Red Zone. With absolutely no evidence, at all, I suspect the Picasso driver for the Radeon card. If it can interfere with something as unrelated as warm start, could it also be responsible for software failures that don't occur on Amithlon or an expanded classic machine?

Guess why I am very keen to see the OS4.0 upgrade.

Regards
Roy Leith



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dimmck 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 14:34:27
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@royleith

Quote:


There is a bug in the pre release Picasso drivers for many video cards including the ATI Radeon 7000. Warm restart works from an 800 x 600 screen, but anything higher freezes the system. The update when its done.



Well now. Maybe that's why CTRL-Amiga-Amiga doesn't work on my system with the Radeon 9000. I'll have to try 800 x 600, just to see if that's the problem.

I normally work with 1280 x 1024.

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Toaks 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 14:40:55
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mine boots fast enough but it was faster some weeks ago




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FuZion 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 20:16:24
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From: Birmingham, England

@Toaks

I thought that. Mine seems to have got a little slower the longer it's been running. Very un-Amiga-like.

My Times for a cold reboot, at:

06 Secs - UBoot starts looking at my drives.
17 Secs - UBoot has finished with them (2 CD drives ).
31 Secs - Kickstart stuff done & I'm on a black screen.
38 Secs - Workbench screen pops up.
47 Secs - All done. Including contents of WBStartup & background loading.

I can only get a warm reboot from the OS4 CD. Taking the disc out so my HD can boot brings my HD partition up after 20 secs (7 secs of that is WBStartup & BGs).

I imagine the update will give HD reading a kick up the arse & the updated DHCP stuff should help in making the boot up process a touch quicker.

FuZion.

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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 20:58:11
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@royleith

GrimReaper report of a failure and damage to the Red Zone

This is the same as stack overrun, increase stack size,

add stack 500000 to your startup-sequence

prefs/workbench

set stack 500000

check the pagstream icon
and if you can set stack size
then change that to 500000

AmigaOS40 uses lots of stack!!!!

Even old 68k programs will use more stack on OS40

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Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 21:17:24
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@NutsAboutAmiga

after I changed this:

setenv baudrate 115200
saveenv


and

Run >nil: AddNetInterface

CTRL+Amiga+Amiga (toolbar loaded)
12sec

CTRL+ALT+ALT (Toolbar loaded)
31sec

ColdBoot (Toolbar loaded)
30sec

my old config:

CTRL+Amiga+Amiga (toolbar loaded)
21sec

CTRL+ALT+ALT (toolbar loaded)
40sec

ColdBoot (toolbar loaded)
39sec

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terminator3 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 21:39:38
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From: USA

@NutsAboutAmiga

Could you post your startup sequence file here plz?
30 seconds sounds just so perfect.
MY system has:
1 maxtor hard disk (i may add 2nd one to see if it reduces bootup time)
1 DVDR/RW
1 DVDROM
(dvd drives are on on cable.)
interesting. Maybe Hyperion can optimize the boot time to around 30 seconds somehow??? :P :P :P

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mbilla 
Re: Booting Time - OS 4
Posted on 30-Aug-2004 22:34:41
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@terminator3
(edited after the C:RUN >NIL: thing)
CTRL-AMIGA-AMIGA

33 sec now 16 sec

CTRL-ALT-ALT

56 sec now 40 sec with 5 sec bootdelay

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