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Internet connection under OS4 - almost there!!!!
Posted on 9-Aug-2005 0:17:06
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All,

I am making a plea to those in the Amiga community who have a sense of
helpfulness and patience! I have posted this information before and have gotten
only a few responses that have not solved the problem. I am trying again in hopes
that I can either identify a bug in OS4 or in my library or systems files.
The issue is as follows:

I have tried numerous times in the last 8 months to get the OS4 default
internet connection to work on my AmigaOne. It has always failed at the point
where I enter my username and password and do a "Test Configuration". My system
is a uA1c with OS4 update 3 installed and running fine. My modem is a SupraExpress
56e and works fine using Miami.
Previously, (and currently) I have installed Miami to access the internet. It
works fine...for an hour at which time it expires and I have to log on again. I
would really like to get the default OS4 internet connection working...and I
have spent many hours trying...and searching this and other newgroups for answers
to no avail! Anyway...here is what I have done...

1) added the line "run >NIL: C:AddNetInterface >NIL: DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.(info|off))"
to my startup-sequence after the line that adds dosdrivers
2) removed all references to miami, miamissl and miami libs: directories from
my user-startup
3) renamed the bsdsocket.l.main file
4) rebooted the AmigaOne
5) Go to OS4:Internet and run the New Connection icon
6) Add the appropriate information about my connection, phone number, etc.
Note - when I get to the Test Configuration window at the modem string entry
page, the connection works fine and connects my modem to the provider.
7) I continue to the initialization page where I enter my username and password
When I try to use Test Configuration here, I always get the failure
"Resource allocation failure. Transmission failed...too many retries"

When I run Snoopdos to show problems, it shows NO FAILURES or PROBLEMS! There
is nothing that can be identified as an issue in the snoopdos log (I've posted
it before on this newsgroup.)

I suspect one of three issues:

1) my internet connection login name is very strange in that it is my email
name i.e. myname@connection.com. Could the "@" in my username cause the program
to fail to send the entire string or some such thing? If so, this is a bug in
OS4's internet connection software that should be fixed. (Now...I know this is
unlikely...but this is one of the last few possibilities.)

2) I could have some old libraries that are 68k based hanging around that cause
the connection to fail. I have verified that bsdsocket.library is version 4.263.
Is this correct for OS4 update 3? I have tried using only the PPC based libs
in my libs directory...still get the same problem. It is even less likely to
be old libs than an OS4 problem.

3) There is something missing from the setup...do I need to first configure
something else...a ppp layer or something? Seems silly...but nobody has ever
mentioned to me any other configuration that is necessary. Also, just a note...
I have tried all of the modem configuration strings and they do not make this
work. Someone previously had suggested that the modem init strings were likely
to be my issue...sadly, I have even coped the exact one that works from Miami
and it gives the same errors.

Please, if anyone can help...it would be GREATLY appreciated. I can provide more
info such as the snoopdos log or action logs...in fact I'll paste the latest
action log below.

Thanks for any helpful ideas and or suggestions. Sorry for taking up so much
bandwidth!

Scott



[2005-08-08 18:33:07] Modem on a1serial.device, unit 0 was selected.
[2005-08-08 18:33:36] > AT&F&C1&D2
[2005-08-08 18:33:36] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:33:36] > ATM0
[2005-08-08 18:33:36] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:33:36] > ATDT4734019
[2005-08-08 18:34:01] > CONNECT 115200
[2005-08-08 18:34:04] > Level 3 Comm nas25.orl1 UQKT2
[2005-08-08 18:34:04] > Username:/login:/Login:+++
[2005-08-08 18:34:04] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:34:29] > AT&F&C1&D2
[2005-08-08 18:34:29] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:34:29] > ATM0
[2005-08-08 18:34:29] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:34:29] > ATDT4734019
[2005-08-08 18:34:50] > CONNECT 115200
[2005-08-08 18:34:54] > +++
[2005-08-08 18:34:54] > OK
[2005-08-08 18:35:01] Connection attempt failed
[2005-08-08 18:35:01] (Resource allocation failure, Transmission failed - too many retries)

Last edited by scabit on 07-Jan-2009 at 08:40 PM.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
Posted on 9-Aug-2005 0:37:06
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@scabit

Read your PM please.

@thread

Not the main issue here but:
Please do not mix up 68k and PPC files unless you know what you are doing.
AWeb PPC, for instance, will not be so happy with 68k Miami.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
Posted on 9-Aug-2005 10:50:46
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@scabit

ok, first of all add this to your s:startup-sequence:

kdebug "console memory" >nil:
kdebug debuglevel 0 >nil:

just below the version so it's the 2nd and 3rd lines, Because you have a µA1, you don't have access to a second serial port and any debug information that is send goes to the modem which doesn't hekp.

next, unless you have any ethernet devices connected, tuen off the addnetinterfaces line by putting a ; at the beginning. the command is really 'add(ether)netinterface' not 'add(inter)netinterface'

what did you do with your bsdsocket.library? miami creates it's own and would complain if the os4 one was in libs:

please email me your 'connection file', DON'T post it as it contains your password (even though it is encrypted).

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@number6

Erm... wrong. it should make no difference at all, if awebppc won't work with miami then it's a bug in aweb. the library provides the same API whether it's 68k or PPC.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@Severin

But.. you do need to install the "bsdsocket.l.main" wrapper if you want to use PPC apps with a 68k TCP/IP stack.

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@xeron

it's installed as default isn't it?

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@Severin

Hmmm... is it? I didn't think so, but I might be wrong. After all, you don't need it if you have a PPC stack.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
Posted on 9-Aug-2005 14:31:59
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@severin
@xeron

This makes perfect sense. It would explain a lot.
Maybe someone would be so kind to confirm whether this alone would explain why
the 68k apps (YAM2.4, IBrowse 2.3 (demo), Voyager) work with Miami, while AWeb
PPC does not.

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@number6

Yes it would.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@severin &
@xeron

Thanks to you both for the discussion and the answer.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@scabit

Quote:

[2005-08-08 18:34:01] > CONNECT 115200


Did you try reducing connection speed? I've just changed to broadband but
my old 56k modem would not coonect if I used conect 115200 had to keep to 56k.


A second thought, have you another modem to try?

My old modem got destroyed by ligtning and whilst waiting for broadband I used
an even older one, my A1 just would not use it. (Nor would my wifes windows PC)

It could detect in the start of the setup program (switching on and of hook
and connecting at link level to the isp) but when it came to using for real
it would not work.

So if you can find / borrow and alternate modem.

My temp modem would work on my a1200 using miami. Never tried miami on my
A1.

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@scabit

Any luck?

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Quote:

Did you try reducing connection speed? I've just changed to broadband but
my old 56k modem would not coonect if I used conect 115200 had to keep to 56k.


I had that problem too...

Last edited by Severin on 09-Aug-2005 at 05:12 PM.

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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
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@Severin &
@Broadblues

Interesting as always.
Independent standalone modem here. Taken from the manual:
Smart One 33.6 Kbps Plug & Play Modems - Also known as "Smart One 336 FLX"
Setting 115200 has not prevented this particular modem from connecting.
When I have experienced any difficulty with this modem, it has been in relation
to problems outside of the framework of the modem itself.

But...I will run some other tests to try and gauge any effects from changing
the bps. (already running at a different setting)

@thread

Anyone who has been to a number of retail outlets and seen the brands of 56k
modems still available. What is the most common brand and model# please.

Best Wishes,
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working
Posted on 9-Aug-2005 20:50:56
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@broadblues

"Did you try reducing connection speed?"

Yes...not sure if I mentioned it but I set the actual serial port speed to 56k
rathert han the default 115200 that Miami is using. It didn't help.

Thanks,

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@Severin

Okay...i'll add the lines to startup-sequence as you suggest and email you my
connection file shortly. Thanks for your help and ideas debugging this problem!


Oh...I have added the bsdsocket.l.main file to my libs: directory so that miami
can use the OS4 bsdsocket.library. At least, I think that is what it is for. When
I try using the OS4 internet connection software, I removed the bsdsocket.l.main
from my libs: dir so that the PPC stuff will be used as normal.

Thanks,

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@scabit

recieved, checked, replied...

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@scabit

Huh?

->"At least, I think that is what it is for. When
I try using the OS4 internet connection software, I removed the bsdsocket.l.main from my libs: dir so that the PPC stuff will
be used as normal...

bsdsocket l.main = 51.2 (05/25/2005)
bsdsocket.library 4.263 (05/19/2005)

These are base files in update#3 I think?
How old is your modem?

 
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@Snuffy

"How old is your modem?"

I purchased my modem in December 2004 when I got my uA1-C for use with it
exclusively. As I mentioned before, it works great with Miami. If only I could
get a Miami license! Anyone know what Holger Kruse is doing these days?

Scott

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@scabit

People speculate about Holger Kruse all the time.
I haven't read anything except the threads about him on AW.

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