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Poll : What project would you like to see a bounty created for on AmigaBounty.net?
CMake
Ruby+RubyGame,
ClanLib
An up to date Reaction and/or MUI based backend for Cairo
MySQL server
WxWidgets
WOS/PUP (PPC) Emulation for UAE
 
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Posted on 24-Jun-2007 1:10:11
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*** PLEASE NOTE: The result of this poll does not mean that project XXX will be the next bounty. That is up to Troels. But it will indicate what people are interested in, and what they might wanna donate to. So, before you vote, for now, this is just for fun, and it's in no way directly related to amigabounty.net !!! ***

See this thread for info on the projects:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=23382&forum=32&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0

Some projects are left out due restrictions when creating polls, I couldn't fit them all.

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@spotUP

A debugged, stable, well documented, modern port of a BASIC programming language. In other words, something for the bedroom programmers who are not going to learn C or anything difficult. This would be something fun for the rest of us and maybe result in a lot of software submissions.

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@spotUP

Just to clarify:
WOS/PUP (PPC) Emulation for UAE

Do you mean being able to run native PPC software natively under the host CPU of EUAE such as Mac, Linux PPC or AmigaOS4?

Or some kind of PPC emulation on x86 again? I vote the former, the PPC platform really needs something like this. We don't have have any UAE JIT on PPC, ridiculous as PPC has more than enough registers for a fast emulation, imagine Petunia built into UAE--the way it should be! The PC already has enough fast emulations killing off the Amiga scene, as it has been for a long time now.

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@Hypex

What you describe is a actually a third kind.... one that is allmost impossle to realise.

The 68k-emu is so deeply embeeded into UAE that replacing it with something else is impossible unless it was specially designed for that purpose.

You'd need to write a whole new JIT for it.

Having an UAE able to run PuP,WOS or maybe even MOS/OS4 would be way cool, and I wouldn't be suprise if adapting a PPC-emu would turn out being easier than making a pass-through to the underlying (PPC)-OS.

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I'm waiting for outcome of the money I put up for Sputnik before doing anything else.

Talking of which, any news?? I've had a go at the MorphOS version, and stick that engine into iBrowse, and I think we'd have a winner!

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No surprise that I voted for Cairo.

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@debrun

Good call, I'm with you.

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MySQL!!!
This one should be so easy that it doesn't a poll

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@elwood

It doesn't need a bounty either, it already exists for Amiga..

Check out this Amiga Magazin Article,


Amiga MySQL Port

You can also download V4 off of aminet

There is also a port of MySQL clients for OS 4

My SQL Client software for OS4

There is even a Yahoo Group to support users

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Amiga_MySql/

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@spotUP

I was going to vote for wxWidgets because it would make it easy to implement graphical gadgets while still using SDL for sound, graphics handling APIs, and I/O according to the wx-sdl website.

But then I heard about the version of Basic that debrun asked for. I'm in the process of writing some support libraries for Mattathias Basic and I know that the Mattathias team's leader (Sidewinder) is working a job and going to school for his Computer Science degree at the same time. He's still tinkering with the Mattathias parser in his little spare time that he doesn't spend with his wife. I'm sure he'd jump at the opportunity to make a couple hundred bucks but I'm not sure a bounty is the best way to go about it. Maybe I should start my own poll to see what people think about our current design strategy.

If we wait until the summer's over I can get some school credit for working on Mattathias Basic this fall. That's better to me than a bounty since I get some assistance from my professor at the local university.

I feel a separate poll for Mattathias Basic development options is in order.

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@ debrun

Basic has it's place - it was the first language I tangled with. But I'd advocate an environment like LabVIEW for people who are put off by a too steep learning curve. Even as a beginner on LabVIEW I could create programs that actually did something - and it's more than adequate for larger projects / experienced developers.

@ Hypex

Toni Wilen doesn't write WinUAE to kill the Amiga. Commodore Amiga hardware is dying all by itself due to age. Amiga emulation on x86 is more like beneficial bacteria colonizing a host.


Anyway, Super Nintendo emulators handle the FX chip (10 ~ 20 Mhz risc processor used for cool games like Yoshi's Island) so it'd be just as cool to have an Amiga emulator handling both 68K and PPC.

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Posted on 25-Jun-2007 3:22:17
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personally i see it as quite unlikely that ppc emulation is a realistic bounty, it sounds like too much work. but you never know..

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Maybe I'm being over simplistic or perhaps my 'needs' are too easily met by existing solutions but PPC emulation seems like the next logical move for UAE. I haven't used E-UAE but WinUAE is so close to perfect at emulating a classic Amiga - where can it go from here?

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Posted on 25-Jun-2007 5:03:31
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I would really want to see a continuation and modernization of ]AmyBoard.


Doesn't seem to work with double [, so here is the full link:

http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard/FAQ.html#[B.3]

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@peroxidechicken

Quote:
Maybe I'm being over simplistic or perhaps my 'needs' are too easily met by existing solutions but PPC emulation seems like the next logical move for UAE. I haven't used E-UAE but WinUAE is so close to perfect at emulating a classic Amiga - where can it go from here?


Having read that (is that an old saying now? I just thpought of it) I thought of another bounty. How about a decent GUI for EUAE based on WinUAE. As it stands we really don't have anything we can use.

I have tried UAE_Config but I am sorry to say it doesn't work for me. It doesn't remember my configs, doesn't load any default one in, and for some reason insists on wiping over the configs I have when running UAE and deleting all my settings! How did the author think up such an annoying program for what would be a useful tool?

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Hi @debrun

SDLBasic is quite stable, but it lacks a good editor and SDK updates to allow compiled
programming. The SciTE system never made-out too good in Xwindows because GTK problems.
I hear Mattathias is not doing too well for technical reasons.

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@DonnieA2

Quote:

DonnieA2 wrote:
@elwood

It doesn't need a bounty either, it already exists for Amiga..

Check out this Amiga Magazin Article,


Amiga MySQL Port

You can also download V4 off of aminet


It's not Amiga OS 4 native though, so a bounty would still be worth it. A version newer than MySQL 4 would be nice too.

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@DonnieA2

MySQL was obtained with ixemul on Amiga OS 3.x and the ML you talk about had its last message in november 2004. The client for OS4 is version 3.23 ...

It would be possible to port MySQL ... that just need some effort ... but the actual situation with existing versions is not really usable.

About basic, have a look at Ruby that can do things really easily !

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