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http://www.liliputing.com/2009/01/limepc-199-freescale-powered-netbook-video.html
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FROM THE LINK ABOVE: The LimeBook netbook features a 7 or 8.9 inch display, 256MB or 512MB of RAM, and 4GB or 8GB SSDs, although the machine can also be customized with hard drives ranging from 30GB to 500GB. The goal is to sell the netbook for $199, which I’m guessing only govers the 4GB model with 256MB of RAM.

Thanks Joesph for leading us to the truth. Thanks Brad for posting the good story.
Nay Sayers: Take a close read of the specification for the price of $199.00, it's got no similarities with what is being offered on the first known eBay item listing for the LimeBook.

Stop living with Goggles on your eyes come out from (under the water).

Stop living in the past, where news reporters once claimed the world was flat and printed that as factual news. New reporters of today now print the report as, "The world being round!"

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Similar story. http://www.liliputing.com/2008/04/eee-pc-900-shows-up-on-ebay.html -- But $650 was the price tag.

Similar story? The EEE PC 900 is now selling for $250. The reason that item sold for $650 was because it was an item very sought after that had not officially been released in the country yet. Much like the PS2 was selling for similar silly amounts imported from Japan. Newsflash: the LimePC is not an item that is valuable due to either desirability (like the ASUS EEE PC 900 before it was released in Europe) or antiquity (like ancient Amiga hardware).

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Stop living with Goggles on your eyes come out from (under the water). Stop living in the past, where news reporters once claimed the world was flat and printed that as factual news. New reporters of today now print the report as, "The world being round!"

You will find that many of us can actually check how much each part of the LimeBook costs, from the processor ($25) down to each resistor.

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You will find that many of us can actually check how much each part of the LimeBook costs, from the processor ($25) down to each resistor.

True...

It would be good if all of us were a bit mature again, after so many posts.
Some people's desire and jobs rely on good marketing of the product in the hopes that it will make it to full scale commercial release.

I don't set the prices for all items, just this one. One funny item on ebay a while ago was a dead fly that landed on well known prime minster's head. I think it sold for more than $400. LOL

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I'm not sure why there is so much arguing over the price . . .

The $200 one, the best I can tell comes with a 7" screen, 256MB and a 4GB SSD HD. The unit on ebay has a 9" screen, 512MB and a 32GB SSD HD . . . So there is room for a price variant. Is the price difference too much? What is the average price for a 32GB SSD HD?

I'm a "NO" on the vote because I don't think anyone is going to port OS4 or MorphOS to it, and if they did, what effect would that have on the quality of use given the 5121e's inherent issues . . .

As unfortunate as this thread is, its like another x86 thread but with different hardware. Going no where . . .

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For the sake of stating the obvious:

9" Screen is more than 7"Screen - not that size matters right! LOL
512MB DDR-II is more than 256MB DDR-II
32Gig SSD is more than 4Gig SSD
New PCB Revision vs OLD PCB Revision

There's not much price difference when you order US $500,000+ worth of units right!

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It consumes so much time just to answer these threads

Correction, as many of us now feel in this thread:

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It consumes so much time just to not answer these threads

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @wolfe For the sake of stating the obvious: 9" Screen is more than 7"Screen - not that size matters right! LOL 512MB DDR-II is more than 256MB DDR-II 32Gig SSD is more than 4Gig SSD New PCB Revision vs OLD PCB Revision There's not much price difference when you order US $500,000+ worth of units right!

Fair enough. But that is why we have been asking what the MSRP is on the units you have. You are only giving what you want for them, with no indication of how much above (if anything) MSRP you are asking for.

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The old specification = MUCH LOWER SPECS like 7":
Between 1,999.00 CNY - Oldest models
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Between 2,998.00 CNY - Newest model but still low spec

Live rates at 2009.04.07 14:17:23 UTC
500.00 USD = 3,418.58 CNY - For the High End Specs, I am advertising on eBay

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I'm a "NO" on the vote because I don't think anyone is going to port OS4 or MorphOS to it, and if they did, what effect would that have on the quality of use given the 5121e's inherent issues . . .

And until any developer steps up saying they would be interested in doing it and interested in spending $500 when the MSRP is unknown and its unknown if the manufacturer's warranty is even valid in the United States I view this as putting the cart in front of the horse.

I think if the approach had been, "hey guys I can get a couple of Limebooks imported, but at a premium unfortunately. Do we think any developers would be interested in getting their hands on one or two for a possible Amiga-like OS port? And if any are, is anyone willing to chip in to help with the cost being at a premium?" Then I think the prevailing expressed sentiment would be different.

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @fairlanefastback The old specification = MUCH LOWER SPECS like 7": Between 1,999.00 CNY - Oldest models AND Between 2,998.00 CNY - Newest model but still low spec Live rates at 2009.04.07 14:17:23 UTC 500.00 USD = 3,418.58 CNY - For the High End Specs, I am advertising on eBay

Forget the old specification. Prices of components change over time, usually in a downward direction.

How much CNY is the MSRP of the units you have? Thats the only important stat in this regard.

And can you show us a reference that shows you are giving us the actual MSRP for the units you have?

And as a side note. For purposes of development (your stated goal) why would a developer need the higher spec machine and be more money out of pocket, if the main point is to do an OS port?

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And as a side note. For purposes of development (your stated goal) why would a developer need the higher spec machine and be more money out of pocket, if the main point is to do an OS port?

It been mentioned before, in the forums, or it should have been.
If everyone had the exact same machine, that is IF we all agree to have same machine specs is better.
512MB, 32Gig, Web Cam 1.3, Wi-Fi, 9" - then product replacement will be a hell of a lot quicker, and porting of the OS from various team if they choose to participate will be way more efficient to being with right!

If everyone's got different screens and cams and ram and CPU revision and motherboard revision and SDD type and size... etc etc... CHAOS would be the norm, when trying to isolate problems, let alone resolve them!

3,400.00+-5,400.00+ Yuan depending on configuration, would be what most stores would try to sell at -- If you wait long enough everything in IT world drops in price! Am I correct?

Hasn't the community waited long for a real world attempt at an Amiga Laptop.

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For OS porting work:

The SSD size only matters if what you are porting needs the extra space.

The screen size does not matter unless it can not meet a minimum resolution requirement for the OS.

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CPU revision and motherboard revision

These could matter of course. But that does not answer why developers need newer spec high end rather than newer spec low-end.

And more to the point, did you ask the developers (any of them) which spec machine would most suit them? As has been brought up before, the 5121 might be a roadblock in and of itself.

Without doing this homework, what makes this be Amiga related at this stage (the advertisement of your ebay auctions to the public at large).

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If there are one to many configurations to deal with, it makes it harder for the store, to replace parts and or entire systems. IMHO Hence people will be complaining about warranty and trying to ring my neck for faster PayPal Protection enforcements.

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Hasn't the community waited long for a real world attempt at an Amiga Laptop.

How does selling these two LimeOS netbooks, to anyone who happens along on ebay with the cash, with no interested Amiga developer mentioned help us towards this goal?

If somebody buys it to run LimeOS on it and pays, will you break ebay TOS and not sell to them, for the greater Amiga community good?

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No more comments --- It is what it is
No Fate But What We Make
I hope we make it!

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @fairlanefastback If there are one to many configurations to deal with, it makes it harder for the store, to replace parts and or entire systems. IMHO Hence people will be complaining about warranty and trying to ring my neck for faster PayPal Protection enforcements.

I'm not asking you to stock multiple models. My comment is, again, if the purpose was to get a developer to port, which is in the title of this thread and in your first post. Why choose a more expensive model? Why post it to ebay where two netbook fanatics unrelated to Amiga entirely are more likely to pay that much (if anyone will).

What store is going to replace parts and entire systems?

Your listing makes no mention of any warranty, whether it be from you or the manufacturer.

And even if nothing were to happen to the unit during the basic return policy of 30 days exchange if defective and as the auction states, under the condition that the its "proven not (to) be your fault" as the buyer. If something happens on day 31, then what? And if you only have two units and something does happen to one within the 30 days, how will you replace it in a timely fashion? Do you have that contigency covered?

There is also no indication that you are an authorized reseller. There is no indication that any warranty from LimePC is valid in the U.S.

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BTW

Late yesterday this bounce-back came in:

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james@limefree.org host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 james@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)

James is the key engineer responsible for system integration.

By my count, every single email address on that site that I saw failed. Does not instill a lot of confidence in Tsinghua Tongfang Co.Ltd .

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Googling reporters and their speculated pricing models, mentioned in the articles does not constitute a business plan. If they think it does, well everyone else knows, 2006/2007/2008 == Trillion Dollar loses world wide... WAKE up and MOVE ON, 2009 pricing and business model is changed already. Try googleing PROTECTIONISM.

Huh? Googling? That response makes no sense. (Protectionism?) I was speaking from experience. Anyway, if you sell your kit at that price, good for you. If you don't, then you're charging more than the market can bear. Pretty simple.

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