I have turned off the 3D compositing \ transparency mode,because to be honest it was a nightmare for clicking on buttons,as it selected the window behind instead !

But i also keep getting little blue vertical lines appearing in my windows.....

These seem to start off rather small,but the more time i spend clicking between windows,the longer they get.

Also my monitor loses the signal from the graphics card occasionally,and you end up resetting the computer even though for instance a CD is playing at the time,so the you know the computer is still working ok.

The monitor losing the signal seems to happen when i'm using OWB Web browser ?

I have read about some other people on here having similar problems,and was wondering if there is a solution to these graphic glitches......You know,like drivers that actually work ?

Last edited by Drex on 27-Jun-2009 at 07:30 AM.
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@Drex
I think you will have to wait for Hyperion to release fixed drivers . But it may be worth fiddling with settings, as not all Flex users seem to have your problems.

However I recall some people reporting that having two RAM modules installed (giving 1GB RAM) caused them a problem, such that removing one helped a lot. (Turn the power off first! And take anti-static precautions!)

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Also my monitor loses the signal from the graphics card occasionally,and you end up resetting the computer even though for instance a CD is playing at the time,so the you know the computer is still working ok.

Try disabling ALL screen-blanking (easiest way is to remove ScreenBlankerEngine from WbStartUp, but you can also go to Prefs/ScreenBlanker, then Timing tab & untick everything).

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@ChrisH

Thanks for the information........I too heard about taking out one of the simms.

I will try this,and if it works,will leave it out until there is a fix ?

Just removed Screenblanker from Wbstartup,will see if this makes a difference !

@Drex


A few thing that you can try.

(1) Turn of Compositing
(2) Disable the screenblanker
(3)Add +RB to mode lines in Radeon Monitor tooltypes for any mode higher than 1280x1024
(4) Change Wbpattern prefs for windows to
Dither qulity = Best
Color quality = Best
Layout = Scale well

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A few thing that you can try.(1) Turn of Compositing(2) Disable the screenblanker(3)Add +RB to mode lines in Radeon Monitor tooltypes for any mode higher than 1280x1024(4) Change Wbpattern prefs for windows toDither qulity = BestColor quality = BestLayout = Scale well

As a recent SAM Flex purchaser, I think I can add some comments to these suggestions based on my experience:
(1) Turn off Compositing - Eliminates system freezes and other display problems encountered when moving/resizing WorkBench windows.
(2) Disable the screenblanker - May help eliminate system freezes and video blackouts. I have disabled all my WBStartup programs and will add them back one at a time to determine which is causing problems. It may well only be screenblanker but I'm not sure yet.
(3) Add +RB... - Has no effect on my 1024x768 screens but may be necessary for higher resolutions.
(4) Change WBPattern prefs for windows - Eliminates vertical lines in WorkBench windows. Other changes to said prefs may work as well or better. I switched to a small IFF image with Layout set to "Tile" and the lines disappeared.
(5) Remove one 512MB memory module if you have 1GB memory - This produced the biggest improvement on my system. It eliminated graphics glitches and most system freezes.

After most of the above changes my SAM Flex is now about as stable as my µA1. Both systems suffer from system freezes on almost a daily basis. Since I have tested both with "clean" OS 4.1 installs, I have concluded that there are serious problems with some software included with OS4.1 or the basic OS4.1 system software itself. Throughout the transition through various OS4 prereleases on my µA1 I got occasional Grim Reapers but rarely system freezes. The daily system freezes didn't start until OS4Final or OS4.1. After I've tested my SAM for a month I plan on reinstalling OS4Final on my µA1 for further testing. These freezes must be fixed. They make the OS look really bad in my view. Here are my biggest freeze initiators on my SAM FLex:
Dragging the OWB scrollbar up and down on long pages.
Editing long forum responses (like this) with IBrowse. It froze the first time I attempted this post and I had to start over after rebooting.

I will point out that one big difference in my system from most others is the use of a dialup connection. However, if that's a source of system freezes then it needs to be fixed since RoadShow is part of the system software. Sorry I've wandered off topic here and I hope you get your SAM Flex running smoothly.

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@Xenic

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I will point out that one big difference in my system from most others is the use of a dialup connection. However, if that's a source of system freezes then it needs to be fixed since RoadShow is part of the system software. Sorry I've wandered off topic here and I hope you get your SAM Flex running smoothly.

My systm is rock solid even with 1 Gig memory.
Once in a while Ibrowse give generates a Grim Reaper but thats about it and I mainly use OWB.
No problems there.
It could be the dialup if you have the problem on two different system.
Hope this is fixed soon.

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@Xenic

How about booting for the OS 4.1 CD and seeing if you have the same freezing problems after leaving the computers idle for a while.

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Removed Screenblanker from WBstartup
Removed 512mb memory
Installed the two new OS 4.1 updates

posting this via OWB.....

No vertical lines in windows or video black outs at the moment.

Will see how things go,but if it stays stable like this,then will reinstall
the 512mb memory i took out,and then see what thats like.

Last edited by Drex on 07-Jun-2009 at 07:21 PM.
Last edited by Drex on 07-Jun-2009 at 07:21 PM.

@Drex
With 1GB installed on my SAM Flex I get small black dots at random spots throughout the display. Some dots will appear in text areas, others in graphic areas. If I click WorkBench or window icons; small black dots appear in the area surrounding the icon image. Clicking an icon on and off can produce black dots at slightly different locations around the icon.

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@Drex
Perhaps you could edit the thread's title to say something like (SOLVED) at the end?

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@ChrisH
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Perhaps you could edit the thread's title to say something like (SOLVED) at the end?

Personally, I don't consider removing half the system memory I paid for and disabling some key features of OS 4.1 to be a solution. If he's going to change the title it should read something like (KLUDGED) or (SOLVED AT THE EXPENSE OF COMPLETE SYSTEM FUNCTIONALITY) or (SYSTEM LIMITING WORKAROUND APPLIED).

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@Xenic

Hyperion/ACube need to get on top of these kind of basic issues ASAP as it's very offputting for any potential SAM Flex buyers.

@Xenic

(PARTIALLY SOLVED) ?
(INABEQUATE) ?
(FIX? WHEN?) ?
(TO BE FIXED?) ?
(KNOWN BUG) ?

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@Xenic
I realise the solution is not ideal, but the whole point is that OS4.1 beta was never designed for the Flex, so it sadly needs work-arounds until they release a proper version of OS4.1 for it. Hopefully sooner rather than later. IMHO there should be a 2nd beta for both Flex & non-Flex, before the final version.

Perhaps (PARTIALLY SOLVED) ?

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@Xenic

Hahaha.........

@Everyone

Is everybody on here with a SamFlex having problems with video issues,when 1GB of memory is installed ?

Seems to me that Spectre660 sytem is ok with 1GB.

Last edited by Drex on 09-Jun-2009 at 04:38 PM.
Last edited by Drex on 09-Jun-2009 at 04:35 PM.

@ChrisH
Personally, I think the word "Solved" can be a little misleading. To me solved would mean that my system is completely functional. I really don't think that we need to mislead people into thinking they can order an 800MZ SAM Flex system with 1GB memory and have it working properly at this point. I guess I'm more on the consumer's side than the OS4.x/SAM cheerleader side on these issues. My fear is that some of the problems I've encountered may not be solved through software updates and it's going to be difficult to exchange/repair hardware after waiting 6 months or a year to see if software updates do fix things.

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@Drex

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@Xenic Hahaha......... @Everyone Is everybody on here with a SamFlex having problems with video issues,when 1GB of memory is installed ? Seems to me that Spectre660 sytem is ok with 1GB.

Maybe I am just lucky this decade...

I have outlined what I have done to my Sam OS4.1 settings in many previous posts.
My experience is that once installed, hardware should be left alone, unless it is proven to be defective or is being upgraded.Tweeking software and systems settings is how I try to adjust problems.Thats why I started with 1GB. Install it and leave it. The more tampering, the more chance of damaging expensive hardware.

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@Everyone

Just to confirm,that I reinstalled the extra 512mb today,and all the old problems came back.

These are :

1. Video Blackouts

Monitor loses the signal,even though the computer is still running.

2. Blue\Black Vertical lines

These appear only when a windows is open and mostly next to every icon or
all over the window about an inch apart.

3. Clicking in windows with transpareny turned on.

What happens is that when you select an icon in a window,quite a lot of the
time it will select exactly whats behind the windows instead.

So if there is nothing behind the window apart from the workbench screen, then it will deselect the window you were in.

Or if there is another window behind the the one you are using then it will select the window or the icon in that window instead.

All these bugs go away when only 512mb is in the system.

Hopefully we will get a fix for these problems very soon !

Last edited by Drex on 11-Jun-2009 at 06:57 PM.

Hello Drex

can you post here the exact brand/model of the ram modules? and what power supply?

Maybe some ACube crew can spot the issue

Good luck!

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Framiga wrote: Hello Drex can you post here the exact brand/model of the ram modules? and what power supply? Maybe some ACube crew can spot the issue Good luck!

Ram modules = Kingston KTM1523/512

Power Supply = TR-250 P4