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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 18:58:18
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| I voted No. because I actually got to use it for a minute at the amiga show, and for Hyperion and A-eon to go though all the effort of producing a test board and porting Os4 to it just to scam a 100 people seem a bit far fetch, like other have said I hope its just a delay by Varisys. plus this is a big operation for most likly a small group of people. be patient
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 20:26:38
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| @NutsAboutAmiga
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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: I know not every one has received one yet. |
You know, writing this violates the NDA ... SNCR_________________ AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.
I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28): http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0 |
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 22:19:00
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Hardware ready to ship, all chip/board documentation available and supplied (pre-, during- and post- design/production), and a delay between hardware/software readiness of months? That's very hard to understand in ANY market. I know it's a weird monopoly situation here, but... MONTHS??!
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 22:21:51
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You know, writing this violates the NDA ... SNCR |
Has NutsAboutAmiga signed the NDA? |
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:11:22
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| @NutsAboutAmiga
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don't know what they are sending out, I only know some people have stuff. |
For a rather loose definition of "have"...
By that definition, I "had" a NeXT Cube back in 1990.
And in 2001, there were dozens of AmiWest visitors who "had" Amithlon --- at a time when, I can assure you, there was still a very real chance of Amithlon never seeing a public release.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:13:23
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:21:01
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 23-Jan-2011 23:31:59
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In hindsight it a real shame that Amithlon wasn't used as a bridge to the next generation Amiga.
I think that Amithlon came at a time when Amiga products might still have sold in sufficient numbers. Unfortunately too many different parties were pulling in too many different directions already and Amiga Inc lacked real direction and were too weak to dictate the future.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 8:50:18
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| voted NO and might I just add, its a dumb question! _________________
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 9:53:25
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voted NO and might I just add, its a dumb question! |
Yet you voted anyway! I agree it's a dumb question and hence, did not bother to vote.
In order to keep this forum clean and tidy I would advise to not respond to this kind of threads/polls. They are useless and only serve the sole purpose of setting up some stupid flamewar.
My stance on this kind of treads.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 11:43:02
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mmm.. pretty much clear that amiga heretic has an agenda. but ive just read a few comments from before a year and wonder whom this past year has actually proven right? lets be honest to ourselves.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 12:47:00
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OOH! Like your avatar! A SAAB and an Amiga is all you need to feel good
And I voted No because I know the X1000 will come. _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft. |
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 14:47:22
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A SAAB and an Amiga is all you need to feel good |
I'm sorry to disappoint you: I've got a Volvo and an Amiga. With respect to cars and motorcycles alike I have a deep love for rear wheel drive. Until now the only ones from a list of 15+ that listened to the steeringwheel by pushing the accelerator. The odd frontwheel driven ones I had or used made me sometimes very nervous...
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 14:52:27
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lets be honest to ourselves. |
Which is always a good thing, but also keep in mind that, although Trevor Dickinson acts in a very professional manner, currently the Amiga is in a rather hobbyistic state. I do by no means mean it in a negative way, but alas, the Amiga market is not *that* big and that brings limitations towards people like Trevor and the guys behind ACube alike.
In general cut them some slack, quite some slack preferably!
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 15:46:14
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this exactly is the problem as it has been pointed out numerous times. i could actually apply the very same criteria to real hobby projects such fpga arcade or natami, which release has benn pushed back in exactly the same manner like x1k. the main thing is that there is no gatering funds, secrecy, and so on. and despite they are all hobby projects aeon is the only one of them that tries to act like serious commercial entity. all this exactly kills the current it could gather otherwise. but it is already too late i fear. Last edited by wawa on 24-Jan-2011 at 03:48 PM.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 16:15:51
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Any business entity has to act professionally in order to gain some credibillity. Both ACube and Trevor do so. ACube now enjoys the fruits of their endeavour: within the confines of the Amiga market (*) they are recognised as being reliable to their word given. But even they had to fight for it in the first days! Now Trevor steps forward and puts all his weight and power behind a very far-reaching project: the X1000 and he is met with the same critisism as all the others had EyeTech included. They reached out and risked their necks. EyeTech fell out, but hey! to some degree we still enjoy the fruits of his endeavours. Thanks to these kind of people we now have something to play with. Without EyeTech how would we fare today? Would there still be an Amiga market somehow? They got bust and there is no reason to explain here why. Hyperion reached out and gave us something to make those board enjoyable. And here we act as a bunch of whining loonies: instead of rejoicing about the availabillity and continued developement of the OS, we throw negativism their way. It's a miracle all them people are still bothered to provide us with toys.
My stance on this: as they have put their shoulders under it, we should do so likewise! Be a man with guts, even if it's the first and only time in your life. But for the sake of all the goats in the pen stop whining!
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EDIT: (*) The Amiga market is reportedly not ACube's only market. Last edited by OldFart on 24-Jan-2011 at 04:16 PM.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 16:45:16
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.. on the contrary, i think amiga community is very forgiving. look at the dedicated public, and im not talking of os4 or aeon alone, most of the people addicted to any sort of project here, be it again natami, fpga arcade, aros, mos of whatever stay loyal to their choice no matter what. more than that: people are ready to offer even financial support *in advance* to such projects, as it was proposed to natami team (not accepted), as it is in fact a subject of numerous bounties like firefox, aros68k and so on. the community is actually very positive in general, much more positive as it seems sane.
what concerns eyetech comparison i know very little about it nor do i care. i wasnt there at that time, thank god, otherwise i wouldnt be here today. im not sure if amithlon would be a better solution at the time. i suppose so, but its difficult to prove today.
and please, dont tell me im whinning. i have na opinion that i am allowed to voice just as anybody else does. ok? |
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 20:40:26
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and please, dont tell me im whinning. |
This remark was not addressed to you, my apologies if it looked like that. They were addressed to people who started this thread and so.
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 20:58:28
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A-Eon is not making a Linux skin and slapping a X1000 sticker on it !
the X1000 is a brand new product that has to be engineered and tested thoroughly and that takes time
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Re: [Poll] Is X1000 vaporware?...take 2 Posted on 24-Jan-2011 21:18:27
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beg your pardon;) |
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