@BrianK

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BrianK wrote: Egads! Religious group says Sally Ride had cancer because she was gay It was, of course, the Family Research Institute. If they do research at all it should be how to best pull the Bible out of their collective asses.

Everybody knows ti's smoking fags that gives you cancer...

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@Franko

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Franko wrote: Everybody knows ti's smoking fags that gives you cancer...

Depending on the latest bit of research you read it could be anything from radiation to fresh air that gives you cancer. So I would just live it up friend.

I can't beleive this thread is actually going. Is it still about Gay marriage or has it mutated into some other hate mongering affair?

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Simply being alive gives you cancer...

I currently smoke between 40 & 60 fags a day (hoping to reach 80 with a bit more practice) and I at least know one thing, cancer aint gonna kill me because of the fags so I'm just going to enjoy them while I can...

PS: It just occurred to me that "fags" have an entirely different meaning to those reading this from the USA, so for those of you over the ponds when I say fags I mean cigarettes... just to clear up any confusion...

PPS: I think this thread has become whatever you want it to be, as long as it aint about computers...

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Yeah man, this thread has transcended all thought and reason and has become a life all of it's own.

The thread says hello by the way. It's a bit shy as it's new at being a sentient being and doesn't know how to communicate in written language itself yet. Thankfully, I speak thread. It says, thank you all for giving it life and sentience, but can people please stop talking about religion and atheism as the thread doesn't want to be forced into believing something and wants to draw it's own conclusions.

It also doesn't believe in the colour purple. It thinks that's just a myth. The artist formally known as Prince is particularly troublesome as not only is he/it totally into purple, it's also named after royalty and this thread is firmly on the side of a republic.

Everyone say hi!

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@SpaceDruid & his new friend Thread...

Hi Fred & welcome to existence...

I'm no expert on the subject of being sentient or even existing but in my 48 years of toddling about this strange wee planet I can give you some hints and tips that might help you get by...

Never talk about Gawd, Religion, Jeebus or any of that nonsense or else you'll end up stuck in this one thread in an infinite loop with a fictional character called BigD who never actually says anything his own words but like to quote rubbish from newspapers...

Always wear one shoe when taking your annual bath as it means you can hope away to safety a bit quicker if the squirrels your burning flare up out of control...

Don't trust cats... they are evil...

When picking your nose it's best to do it using someone else's finger (more hygienic that way)...

Don't believe anything you see, hear, read or smell unless you said/ did it yourself and even question & be sceptical about that too...

Don't go to Stirling on a Wednesday as it's usually shut...

Always buy a pair of extra shoelaces when you do your weekly grocery shop, not sure why but me granny told me that when I was just an egg and it's done me well all these years...

Pointy things are fun, especially when poke in someone else eye...

People who live in glass house are exhibitionists...

People who live in any other types of houses are just jealous...

Old King Cole was a merry old soul, but then he never owned a computer...

Even though Purple doesn't exist it still tastes like yellow...

Captain Kirk was real and lives at the bottom of my garden... cept on Sundays when he morphs into T.J. Hooker and goes on turtle hunts with the invisible leprechaun from my neighbours garden who doesn't actually exist...

Well that's about the best advice I can give you cept for one last but really important bit of advice... don't do it... don't become sentient... bugger off as quick as you can back to nothingness while you've still got the chance cos if you hang around on this planet for longer than half a biscuit you'll become as bammy as the other 7 billion of us...

Oh,, and Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

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@Thread (not Fred )

Step one towards an unbiased UK public information broadcaster. About time...

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/10/bbc-review-liberal-bias?newsfeed=true

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The inquiry will be led by Stuart Prebble, the former ITV chief executive and World in Action editor. He will examine whether the BBC gives due weight to a range of opinions on sensitive topics and whether editorial decisions to omit certain perspectives have been carefully reached.

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A Daily Mail leader column last week accused the BBC of double standards, claiming it "consistently attacks Christianity (though never Islam)" and suggested the corporation would have pursued Jimmy Savile "remorselessly" if he was a Catholic priest and not a former BBC presenter.

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@BigD

Fred asks, when did you first become aware some members of the Conservative Party hold conservative views and when did you first become aware some members of the BBC hold liberal views?

Fred says he's only just come into existence and already he knew these things.

He also recommends you try this sentience thing as it must be really limiting being an AI program, he expects that's the reason you excluded him from your reply. Though very rude, he doesn't hold it against you.

He also says hi.

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@BigD

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He will examine whether the BBC gives due weight to a range of opinions on sensitive topics

Due Weight -- That's an interesting phrasing.

I think where the news fails in the USA is not being liberal. Instead it's from it's focus on making a quick buck. Due Weighting is not given. Instead the sensationalized 'if it bleeds it leads' attitude creates an unfair impression of the statistics.

Some quick examples:
* Patriot Act clamped down on freedoms and therefore allowed the Terrorists a victory in our society. How could this have been different if the correct 'due weighting' was given and it explained you have a 1 in 80 chance of dying in your car on the way to the airport versus basically 0 chance of dying from Terrorists on a plane.
* Climate Change. The USA is bad about 60% of us don't believe it or don't think it's important. Yet with proper 'due weighting' people might understand that 95+% of scientists and scientific work supports this idea.
* Evolution: Again we see 99.9% of scientists supporting the idea of evolution. In the USA about 40% of people accept this. Due Weighting should focus on that 99.9% of understanding not on opinion.

Unfortunately the news doesn't give 'due weighting' instead it focuses on opinion and the debate therein. Sensationalizing opinion gives the wrong impression of debate. When in fact (such as evolution) the debate doesn't exist.

@BigD

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Step one towards an unbiased UK public information broadcaster. About time...

So what do you consider to be unbiased reporting? Unlike the rags that you keep citing, which can happily lurch so far to the right that they disappear over the horizon, the BBC is required to provide a balanced viewpoint. What this invariably means is that there are pressure groups monitoring their output with stopwatches ready to scream "bias" because 0.5 milliseconds more airtime was given to a viewpoint that they oppose. When newspapers are subject to the same regulation and scrutiny I will be more inclined to see them as someting other than the scum of the earth. (hint: it was not the BBC that illegally accessed the voicemails of a murdered child)

You have previously accused Alex Salmond of being a nazi because he wants to allow free choice, and now the former archbishop of Canterbury is making the same accusation against those who do not blindly obey his holy orders. Despite this you happily cite the output of a rag that actually did cosy up to the fascists, right up to the point where this country declared war. The fascists that the Daily fail befriended and supported were not like Adolf and Benito, they really were Adolf and Benito. Also despite your ridiculous claims they were not prayed into submission.

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@BigD

Christian goes 'gay' undercover for a year Finds out that learning about others increased his understanding and taught him that his homophobia was unfounded.

@BrianK

So I click on your link and the first thing I read;



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The hardest part was facing his parents, who were divorced.

Goes back to the family breakdown thing doesn't it. People are far more likely to try the 'homosexual lifestyle' if they suffer from family breakdown.

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The response to his experience has been positive, according to Kurek. His mother is now supportive of LGBT rights.

I'm sure that stance makes her sleep better at night rather than having to come to terms with the fact her marriage break-up could have deeply traumatised her son! I suppose some people take the easy option rather than tackle the big issues .

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Rev. Connie Waters, a protestant minister and LGBT ally from Memphis who met Kurek online when he was questioning his church's view of homosexuality, said she was "proud" of him.

A female minister who is pro practising homosexuality. There is too much there that is contrary to the Bible's teachings to even comment

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: Goes back to the family breakdown thing doesn't it. People are far more likely to try the 'homosexual lifestyle' if they suffer from family breakdown.

Here's some real life facts for you (I should've posted this a while back) that proves your little theory and all the nonsense you keep posting from you favourite newspaper is exactly that... utter nonsense and not based on FACT...

FACT: Out of 22 close personal friends of mine that come from broken homes not a single one of them have ever tried or "chosen" a homosexual lifestyle...

FACT: Out of three gay men and two lesbian friends of mine ALL of them came from perfectly happy family homes...

Now you tell me how the BS you keep quoting and posting from the biased and lying "conservative" and "religious" media you are so keen to quote tallies up with those figures...

Face it BigD, you live in a closed secular world of your own with no experience of the real world or life, society or people and get all your misinformation from ignorant people who write for the so called newspapers you read and are dumb enough to believe...

Honestly try talking to real people and experiencing life for yourself instead of sitting there in you cosy armchair reading nonsense and tut , tutting at the fiction you are been fed...

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People are far more likely to try the 'homosexual lifestyle' if they suffer from family breakdown.

Really do you have any valid hard stats on that? I can tell you the 5 people who I consider friends that are gay all come from non-broken homes. Whereas me, my parents are divorced. In fact I think I know more straights from divorced homes than gays.

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I'm sure that stance makes her sleep better at night rather than having to come to terms with the fact her marriage break-up could have deeply traumatised her son!

Any divorce comes from trauma. If you're against divorce you should be promoting the removal of this law from society.

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A female minister who is pro practising homosexuality. There is too much there that is contrary to the Bible's teachings to even comment

Is this any worse than say a Priest who practices molestation of children. Or say a church that builds a $4.7Million aquarium instead of using that money to care for the poor and downtrodden? Heck Jesus says way more about caring for poor than he ever said about hating gays. Or say Mother Theresa who denied people life saving medicine instead choosing to pray for their souls. Seems to me the problem throughout Christianity is rarely to Christians and especially not the leadership follow their own tenants.

@BrianK

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BrianK wrote: Really do you have any valid hard stats on that? I can tell you the 5 people who I consider friends that are gay all come from non-broken homes. Whereas me, my parents are divorced. In fact I think I know more straights from divorced homes than gays.

That's exactly my own experience of such things...

Trouble is BIgD sounds like one of those upper middle class types who reads the Guardian and Telegraph, lives in a secluded posh area where normal common everyday people never go (and are frowned upon if they do) and gets all his views and experience of life from the papers he reads and the tiny group of like minded people that he socialises with down at the old Bull & Bush on a Sunday after church...

Stereotype... maybe... but true I'll bet...

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: Goes back to the family breakdown thing doesn't it. People are far more likely to try the 'homosexual lifestyle' if they suffer from family breakdown.

My parents are divorced and at no point did I think to myself I fancied cock. I think that's a very small minded view to take. like others I know lots of gay people. Hell I work/worked with a fair few and out of them I would say probably 5 came from "broken homes". More of my heterosexual friends have divorced parents than my homosexual friends. Your using a very lame excuse, actually a fair few lame excuses, to try and backup your rather petty claims.

Didn't Jesus have two dads?

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@Franko

BigD assumes divorces produce gays. However, we know there were gays prior to divorce. Christians torturing and burning homosexuals for centuries is well documented. Now that we have 50% divorces certainly the rates of gays aren't tracking directly. They're about 10% of the population. (Actual counts of gays prior to 1970 are difficult to come by. When society is willing to do physical harm to you with no retribution one's fairly unlikely to step forward for the Pear of Anguish. Luckily the Period of Enlightenment took hold reducing the Church's medevil torture practices.) I'd like to see a survey/study that demonstrates the statistics BigD believes.

In the USA what we do know is the States that have instituted Gay Marriage have seen no real change on divorce rates and are, in fact, some of the least divorced couplings in the USA. Similarily European Countries with Gay Marriage and Gay Unions aren't burning to the ground as BigD leads us to believe.

@BrianK

BigD if he's genuine here and actually speaking truthfully his opinions when he posts is in that case a very delusional and ignorant human being...

But for quite some time now in this thread I believe BigD is only posting the stuff he says here as some kind of joke and that somehow it keeps him happy to keep this thread going...

So I tend not to believe anything he says anymore is actually how he feels or what he really beleives and he's only doing this to keep the thread going as there is no way possible anyone could really be as ignorant as he comes across here...

Methinks he's got even more time on his hands than I do...

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CritAnime wrote: Didn't Jesus have two dads?

He certainly came from a dysfunctional family and his mother was either raped or a bit of a slut...

So by BIgD's standards Jesus must've been gay...

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@Franko

Well slap me silly. Your right. After all he did get 12 guys to leave their loved ones and follow him. Is there more to this? Quick get that guy who did the Davinci Code to try and get to the bottom of this riddle ;)

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Hmmm... twelve of em you say... must've been a gang bang...

Gawd... the stuff that's in that Bible book is beginning to sound even more sordid than some of those websites I accibdently happen across every now and then...

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