Until today, I knew nothing about Amiga Inc. or this guy, Bill McEwen. I can't even recall what I was searching for when I stumbled upon some miscellaneous articles from this and that year, ranging from 2001 to 2008.

Oh my god, the fun and embarassment. Can someone help me reconstruct the whole timeline of pityful lies, and/or understand what this non-person and non-company have actually done in the last ten years?

@resle

Believe it or not but this place used to be huge Amiga Inc. fan site.

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@itix

How is that possible? Almost everyone here seems to have a good grasp of IT, and the guy was barking utter, blatant bullshit since his first interviews in 2002.

I've just been through the 2006 interview where he stated that Amiga Inc had 60 or so software engineers in India, while avoiding any questions that was even slightly technical.

Embarassing.

@itix

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Believe it or not but this place used to be huge Amiga Inc. fan site.

There are still some Amiga.Inc supporters, eg. me.


Maybe original intentions of Bill McEwen were good, but all he touched turned in to pile of ash.

@resle

the name/company changed, fans didn't

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Not sure I should say this, but here goes. When Escom restarted Amiga I was jubilant. When Gateway got it I was highly doubtful and then when Gateway dumped Amiga I figured all the nails were in the coffin and so I turned away from Amiga for several years.

Then, feeling nostalgic, I brought the Amigas out of the closet and bought more classics, then got excited about AOS4/MOS/AROS and am just having fun, surprised and elated there is all this development going on no matter how niche and fractured we are.

But you know what? I was blissfully ignorant of all the false hopes tied to Mr. McEwen and his affiliates and the companies that kept changing their names to Amiga Inc. Coming at it from the vantage point of looking at those years after the fact, it seems to me like a big con job took place.

Does this man still live among the people of Kent? That city's leaders should feel like suckers -- and so should many of us.

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@pavlor

Initially the plans looked rather okay but indeed unfortunately somewhere along the road some rabbit crossed the street right in front of the Amiga Inc. bus causing it to crash.

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@WolfToTheMoon

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the name/company changed, fans didn't

Oh the company did changed.

Sucessor in spirit and big announcements without much fruits + in licence is Commodore US. So company changed, but yes, Amiga Inc fans (read: CUSA fans) didn`t.

It really looks like Bill was rewamped to serve as CUSA PR.

There are several parallells like e.g. Stadium Kent fiasco of Amiga Inc and 30 mill advert budget of CUSA.

What isn`t a parallel is that each CUSA customer supports Amiga Inc directly through licencing scheme.

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Maybe original intentions of Bill McEwen were good, but all he touched turned in to pile of ash.

Change Bill to Baron and we got that twice right.

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@vox

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@WolfToTheMoon

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ha... let's wait for OS4 to rule the embedded market

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so far only with AROS. Amiga goes PowerPC is much more real - it counts in AROS, MorphOS and AmigaOS 4. Emulation of OS 3 is possible on both, so empty dream so far you dream.

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@resle

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Oh my god, the fun and embarassment. Can someone help me reconstruct the whole timeline of pityful lies, and/or understand what this non-person and non-company have actually done in the last ten years?

For everything before CUSA appearance check
https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/
just about Bill
https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/#TOC-Mr.-Bill-McEwen
And just add Baron style in last two years

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Iff there is one lesson i have seen/learned then that is...

How higher you lift something how deeper it falls, so...

Better stay realistic with both feet on the ground.

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@vox

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https://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/

Good source of informations, but one must remember this page was created with sole intent - to bash Bill McEwen.

@pavlor

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this page was created with sole intent - to bash Bill McEwen.

Intend was to remember all the wrongdoings of Amiga Inc.

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Please note: facts were referenced wherever possible. Everything else is personal opinion only!

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Moved this thread to the correct forum.

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@resle

Bill McWho !!!

Hmmm.... he sounds suspiciously English to me....

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@Dirk-B

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Iff there is one lesson i have seen/learned then that is... How higher you lift something how deeper it falls, so... Better stay realistic with both feet on the ground.

Agreed. Even there are 6 months or more silence gaps with Hyperion, AROS and MorphOS team seems like they have learned the lesson (unlike C=USA) and comes with announcements only when things are done.

Personally I am much more satisfied with way things are going after the court case settlement, except for Amiga Inc behav.

For long time anyone who wanted to licence Amiga name for any product was left without answer, and then two anonymous new LCC`s (iContain and C=USA) got licence just because they offered either big cash or big % of their revenue.

When A Inc. was formed we expected to have everything Amiga related Amiga branded. Now we ended with everything not Amiga related being rebranded = slowly losing the meaning.

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@resle

Rich Woods created a timeline of Changes of Amiga IP ownership from 1997-2007.

http://merlancia.us/amiga-hyperion/Time-LineOfChangesInAmigaIPOwnership.pdf

@resle

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How is that possible? Almost everyone here seems to have a good grasp of IT, and the guy was barking utter, blatant bullshit since his first interviews in 2002.

Oh boy. Man, we told them. Calling AI on its BS would get you a label of troll. Amiga, Inc suing Hyperion caused one of the biggest cognitive dissonance cases I've ever wittiness.

You could dig out old threads right here, on this site, and check out all the fights. Anyway, it was "ages ago", I'm kind of envy of you missing the 2001-2008, even if we're far calmer now, some wounds people got during that time won't heal.

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@vox

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vox wrote: @Dirk-B Quote: Iff there is one lesson i have seen/learned then that is... How higher you lift something how deeper it falls, so... Better stay realistic with both feet on the ground. Agreed. Even there are 6 months or more silence gaps with Hyperion, AROS and MorphOS team seems like they have learned the lesson (unlike C=USA) and comes with announcements only when things are done. Personally I am much more satisfied with way things are going after the court case settlement, except for Amiga Inc behav. For long time anyone who wanted to licence Amiga name for any product was left without answer, and then two anonymous new LCC`s (iContain and C=USA) got licence just because they offered either big cash or big % of their revenue. When A Inc. was formed we expected to have everything Amiga related Amiga branded. Now we ended with everything not Amiga related being rebranded = slowly losing the meaning.

Cooperation between Amiga Inc. and iContain was nothing that Amiga Inc earned money on. I heard another story behind this cooperation, but not exactly mins long but it did not have to do with money.

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