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I have to say I'm a little surprise its taken this long...

I'm not surprised. Filming is just one of the stages in the process... post-production is the long and tedious stage. It took me 5 years to finish a high school film project (yes, it was finished at university). I'm part of another computer-related film project (but not as the filmmaker nor in post-production); that one started in 2009, and there is no completion date.

Another example... I filmed a project for my students. Plenty of footage, including the pick-up shots. It took me 30 hours of work -- editing, tweaking the sound, adding in the music -- before I was close to having a final cut. After a few showings, it still went back to the editing table for more touching-up. All of that for a 2 1/2 minute video.

The above-mentioned project of which I am a part... the two project filmmakers have regular day jobs. Zach W., "Mr. Viva Amiga," has a full-time day job. Getting a massive documentary done on your spare time is... well... massive.

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Although I havent really done anything that professional video stuff, I can tell the same.

If you make a movie, and you know exactly what you want already when shooting, then cutting is easy and fast (this is how Alfred Hitchcock did to my understanding), but if you keep gshooting alternative takes, and take same scenery several times, it starts taking much more time. And then we get to the worse, documentary that is based upon interviews.

You interview several people, you have only vague idea what they say and talk, and then you in worse case try to cut them so that one says something, and next one sort of comments to it. You might have several gours of footage to go through of each person alone, and you try to find those suitable couple of minutes from each, and you need to decide in which order it goes and you need to decide your story etc.

It might go that you find this one person says thing 1, next guy says thing 2, third guy says thing 3 and everything goes so perfect, except, you would still need this thing 4, which no one said, and then you need to figure out another plot for your documentary.

Documentary is very very hard thing to cut, I would guess, the hardest.

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Lotta updates coming soon.

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A friend of mine is in the post-prod business.

I can tell you he is working day&night 7day/7 when he has a new project to work with.

usually those guys do use mac computers (and pro ones, those who costs more than an X1000^^), and the computer is "computing" scenes minutes after minutes.

there is the sound level to adjust and a lot of other things he explained me, but as it is not my job at all, I forogot a lot he explained....

Well, usually, that kinf of guy can be up for 3-4 days and may sleep somes minutes when the computer is so full of computing job, that he is not able to respond to user request.

If the guys who is currently working on that project is doing this in his own free time, it can take long!

Last edited by DC_Edge on 28-Nov-2013 at 05:12 PM.

Just recieved the following email:


Project Update #28: Happy New Year from Viva Amiga
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Hey all

Happy New Year. Good news....

Just wanted to let everyone know I met my goal of having a "story lock"completed by end of 2013 as promised. I went over by a week into 2014. Not bad!

As I type this, I am backing up the film so far to a server. Feels good knowing that nothing will be truly lost if tragedy strikes now. I know it likely wont, but now we are in great shape with catastrophic loss type backup. I have put countless man hours into this. You probably have no idea. Years of my life. I got stuff in different places.

Onward and upward. It's all fine tuning music and styling in the visuals I've been collecting and creating this whole way. Got a little shoot I promised someone in Chicago that I will grab, other that that, it's all easy and fun stuff. The last phase was really mind-wracking, but essential. I have been waiting for this part for so long and it's finally here.

More to come. Now's the fun part.

@Rob

Good to see he finally providing updates a little more often. Looking forward to this film.

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From Zach on Facebook --

Viva Amiga
January 24

Hola Amigans!

We're watching old promotional videos and footage from Newtek and it's Video Toaster paradise!

We've got an amazing pile of B-Roll to sort through but we're having so much fun.

Have you checked out the presenter schedule for Vintage Computer Festival East 9.1? Zach will be showing a first look of Viva Amiga AND he's presenting right after Dave Haynie! We're so excited to start sharing this amazing story with you and looking forward to seeing you there!

I occasionally wonder what happened to this project, but it seems they're still making (good but slightly slow) progress:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vivaamiga/viva-amiga-the-documentary-film/posts
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05bp7n5r-lQ&feature=youtu.be

Will they make it in time for the Amiga's 30th Anniversary in 2015?

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Will they make it in time for the Amiga's 30th Anniversary in 2015?

I commented on that:

Here

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@ChrisH

Nice to know there is still progress, I too wonder what is with such a long delay. I get that editing takes time, but I've worked for independent video companies and done stuff for the BBC, a one hour documentary usually takes about 3 months to concept, filming and editing, but that is with a full time crew. Nearly half a decade seems an unusually long time unless they're just doing an hour or so a week on it.

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Well, if you listen to the clips in my link, he tells you what happens next.

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...a one hour documentary usually takes about 3 months to concept, filming and editing, but that is with a full time crew.

Full-time crew? It's just Zach who is doing all the editing by himself.

Reminding me to edit more CommVEx videos,
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Full-time crew? It's just Zach who is doing all the editing by himself.

I know, that's why I specified that timeframe was with a full time crew at the BBC.

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Looks like the project is too big for him or he has other priorities.

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From my link:

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I'm hear to say that we'll be wrapping up the film this fall. All my editing will be complete. All the graphics will be in. And then we're going to send it to the color correcting and sound mixing people to get it looking as pretty as possible.

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