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Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 15:19:04
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| Now that we have a common 'Operating Environment' for html5 etc within our differing NG Amigalike OSes, we have an opportunity to see some co-operative efforts between users.
Sadly there is not yet an AROS build (requires Zune update?), but once that is done the thread can be updated to include such results.
If you create or discover any useful html5 applications, scripts, contextual menus, per-url settings or other hints and tips, please share them here with your fellow Odyssey users.
(In case you were wondering, or feel offended by the blue butterfly, it's in the 'MorphOS - Applications' forum since there is no 'unified - applications' forum. Should the admins decide to create a unified applications forum, this thread can be easily moved. Hint, hint. ) _________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet. |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 15:19:37
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| A (vitally important) online web application suite:
MS Office web apps:
Welcome to a fully compliant and functional Microsoft Office implementation on your NG Amigalike of choice. :)
MS Word - fully functional viewer and editor MS Excel - fully functional viewer and editor (Haven't tried the others)
Both offer a broad subset of MS Office functions that should cover most people's daily needs.
Requires the following to be enabled:
> Local Storage > Spoof as Internet Explorer 10 (Other spoofs may work, this one works best for me)
Instructions: RMB>Windows>URL Settings..* 'Add' http://onedrive.live.com Ensure 'enable local storage' checkbox is filled; Spoof As: 'Internet Explorer 10' (dropdown/cycle gadget).
MorphOS - confirmed working AmigaOS - confirmed working (with no spoofing) AROS - (not yet applicable)
* NB - you might want to get familiar with the 'URL settings.' This very useful feature allows you to override the default preferences for individual domains. Last edited by Boot_WB on 10-Apr-2014 at 03:13 PM. Last edited by Boot_WB on 09-Apr-2014 at 04:05 PM.
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 15:22:32
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| A downloadable web app:
Glyphyr
A simple font editor. Can also be downloaded for use as an offline web app (how cool!)
http://glyphrstudio.com/
Not sure if this has any use for us, but a nice toy and demonstration of offline web apps. Last edited by Boot_WB on 09-Apr-2014 at 04:06 PM. Last edited by Boot_WB on 09-Apr-2014 at 04:06 PM.
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 15:33:27
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| A couple of useful context menu items:
Play stream
Contextual menu item for playing f.ex video files shared across LAN using a web server such as Apache.
RMB>Settings>Preferences..>Contextual menus 'Add' Category='Link' Label='Play stream' Action='a:mplayer/mplayer >NIL: %l -cachenetwork -gui -cache 16384 -quiet -fs -vo cgx_overlay::PLANAR -autosync 30'
(NB - needs configuring for AmigaOS vo drivers - could someone post a suitable alternative?)
(adjust path to mplayer to suit your config. assigning a: for applications is the most amigalike for me )
Translate page
Contextual menu item for one-click translation of foreign language webpages using Google translate.
RMB>Settings>Preferences..>Contextual menus 'Add' Category='Page' Label='Translate Page' Action='OPENURL "http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=%u" NOLAUNCH'
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 16:02:36
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| An example of a useful MIME type:
ANR Shoutcast
Connects to shoutcast radio stations using AmiNetRadio by clicking on the link.
Also demostrates 'breaking out' from OWB MIME types to more complex scripts.
In OWB:
RMB>Settings>Preferences..>Mime Types Edit (or add if it isn't already there): - MIME Type: audio/shoutcast - Extension: pls (not .pls, just pls) - Action: External viewer - Viewer: s:owb/anropen %f Save
From desktop*:
Open a text editor and save the following as s:owb/anropen: Quote:
.key local .bra { .ket }
; set your ANR path here: set ANRpath "A:aminetradio/aminetradio"
; leave everything below here alone! rename >NIL: {local} {local}.pls run >NIL: $ANRpath URL {local}.pls |
Set the script flag (open a shell and type 'protect s:owb/anropen +s')
* Agnostic, and easier than typing Ambient/Workbench/Wanderer/DOpus/Scalos. Last edited by Boot_WB on 09-Apr-2014 at 04:06 PM.
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 17:59:39
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 18:29:12
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| Couple picks from my MorphOS tips, I guess they work on OS4 too :)
How to Reduce OWB's HD Writes
OWB writes a lot of data to hard drive by default. You might want to reduce it if you're paranoid about SFS fragmentation, filesystem corruption or privacy. Or just want your .recycled dir to have other than OWB files too. One option is to use Private Browsing mode always, but here are tips if you don't want to activate that always or you want to restrict certain writes only.
- Disable TopSites feature. This makes a write for every page you visit, it's an awful amount. You can disable it with "Setenv SAVE OWB_DISABLE_TOPSITES 1" in shell. - Disable Website Icons feature. Open Interface settings and uncheck all Website Icons checkmarks. - Disable all saving options from Privacy settings.
If you still need some option enabled, because some site requires it, you can soft link its configuration file to Ram Disk. For example I still have Local Storage enabled, but I have linked its dir to ENV: (which resides in Ram Disk). To do that, make LocalStorage directory to both ENV: and ENVARC: (that ensures that it's created after reboot too), open shell and cd into your OWB/Conf/ dir, rename or delete the old LocalStorage dir, type "makelink LocalStorage ENV:LocalStorage". Using ENV: gives the advantage to have some files saved so that those settings are restored in every boot. If you're happy with certain settings, copy it to ENVARC: and it will be preserved without being messed up with later usage. If you just want to have configuration files enabled, but cleared on every boot, you could soft link them to T: for example.
Alternative YouTube Script for OWB
YouTube Center is a feature rich configureable userscript for improving YouTube experience. It's made for mainstream browsers, but it also works on OWB! All videos can be forced to HTML5 to get them work in OWB. It's heavier than Fab's official OWB script, but works fine as an option or as a backup plan :). Script saves its settings to LocalStorage to #?www.youtube.com#? files. _________________ - The wiki based MorphOS Library - Your starting point for MorphOS - Software made by jPV^RNO |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 18:40:44
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| Contextual menu for downloading all files from directory
If you browse to file directory, you can download all files from it with this contextual menu entry:
Category: Page Label: Download files Action: wget -r --no-parent --reject "index.html*" -e robots=off -nH --cut-dirs=1 -P "RAM:" %u
wget must be in path and all files are downloaded to RAM: (you can change it to anything you want too).
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 18:49:34
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| For finnish users, if you want to see videos in Iltalehti's TV section, put in URL Preferences http://www.iltalehti.fi/iltv* and select Spoof As: IPad. _________________ - The wiki based MorphOS Library - Your starting point for MorphOS - Software made by jPV^RNO |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 19:29:31
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Office Web Apps work fine here in Odyssey 1.23 without spoofing on AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6. _________________ Proud user of AmigaOS 4.1 on an AmigaONE 500. This is the first Amiga I've ever had so I don't know all the ins and outs of AmigaOS yet, so I'm sorry if I'm asking noob questions and stuff. |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 9-Apr-2014 19:57:44
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 15:02:04
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Thanks for that
Just tested on MorphOS 3.5, Odyssey 1.23.
Worked fine with Cracked.com.
Didn't seem to work on CNN (As per the readme, trying to open links with camera icon, and images with 'play' icon). Error messages 'unsupported scheme', 'no video found' .
Nice GUI - Haven't seen MUIRexx in action before, cool!
One minor bit of feedback:
Once the GUI has opened, paths to wget, rtmpdump etc can be configured (Thanks, I will use that, see below). However, unless wget is in c: on the first run, the script fails (can't find c:wget) and the paths can't be configured. (This came up purely because I normally keep wget and other Unix-format command line tools in gg:bin (or gg:usr/bin) and add those directories to path, reserving c: for AmigaDOS format tools. )_________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet. |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 15:09:25
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jPV wrote: Couple picks from my MorphOS tips, I guess they work on OS4 too :)
[..]If you still need some option enabled, because some site requires it, you can soft link its configuration file to Ram Disk. For example I still have Local Storage enabled, but I have linked its dir to ENV: (which resides in Ram Disk). To do that, make LocalStorage directory to both ENV: and ENVARC: (that ensures that it's created after reboot too), open shell and cd into your OWB/Conf/ dir, rename or delete the old LocalStorage dir, type "makelink LocalStorage ENV:LocalStorage". Using ENV: gives the advantage to have some files saved so that those settings are restored in every boot. If you're happy with certain settings, copy it to ENVARC: and it will be preserved without being messed up with later usage. If you just want to have configuration files enabled, but cleared on every boot, you could soft link them to T: for example. |
I like that! Completely missed it last time I visited your hints'n'tips page. _________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet. |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 15:24:55
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Thx to have test under MOS.
"paths can't be configured" ? Even if you click on the little ASL icon at the right of the text box "C:wget" ?
After you have to hit "save settings" and restart the script.
To configure, try to look at all the pictures in the archive.
I will recheck for CNN, it worked 2 weeks ago... but are others websites works ? Euronews for example ?
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 16:07:16
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zzd10h wrote:
"paths can't be configured" ? Even if you click on the little ASL icon at the right of the text box "C:wget" ? |
Unless you have wget in c:, the gui doesn't open, so you never get to see the ASL requester.
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I will recheck for CNN, it worked 2 weeks ago... but are others websites works ? Euronews for example ?
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I'll check through some more when I get time later: babysitting this eve._________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet. |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 16:53:31
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Ah yes, you are right, I renamed my c:wget and it fails too.
It's because, I fetch the url webpage with wget BEFORE to display the rxMUI interface...
edit : I will embed wget OS4 & MOS version... edit edit : no, I will just remove the "c:"
Nevertheless, CNN works well here, I just tested. Last edited by zzd10h on 10-Apr-2014 at 06:34 PM. Last edited by zzd10h on 10-Apr-2014 at 05:28 PM.
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 10-Apr-2014 22:55:56
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And insetad of C:wget why not use APPDIR:wget (you must first have execute wget once from "real" path) |
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 13-Apr-2014 22:58:15
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Thanks for the tips, have disabled all favicons here and topsites. Liked topsites but can live without if if claws back some CPU cycles. Odyssey is pretty fast on A1-500, but anything that can help things along is welcome especially when it comes to javascript-heavy pages.
Anyone have anymore tips for speed, less memory use, etc?
Is it possible to supress the pop-up downloads window completely? Can't find an option for this in prefs.
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Re: Odyssey (all platforms) - A unified application thread Posted on 14-Apr-2014 2:47:37
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| There is indeed an AROS version of Odyssey. Granted its v1.16, but there's little that doesnt work vs. 1.23. Coupled with the fact AROS Odyssey has jit for javascript, arguements could be made to say its the most usable version (depending on a persons uses).
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