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sinisrus 
Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 10-Oct-2015 19:12:12
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Hello,

I have several annoying bug in os4.1 paint.
- Bug free cutting tool sam my freezes
- Often when I chose a color when I draw I always black (regardless of the color I chose) I have this bug when I use PPaint a while.
- The tool circles is not really perfect circle
- The paint bucket tool and hard to know which part of the pointer can fill color.
I do not know if an update is planned but I will like her bug is correct because at the moment is not usable PPaint

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broadblues 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 10-Oct-2015 19:22:32
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@sinisrus

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I have several annoying bug in os4.1 paint.
- Bug free cutting tool sam my freezes


Pardon? Sorry I didn't understand that at all, could you explain in more detail?


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- Often when I chose a color when I draw I always black (regardless of the color I chose) I have this bug when I use PPaint a while.


If you mean just after loading a brush, then please check the paint Mode is set to 'Colour' and not 'Matte', it defaults to Matte immeditaly after loading a brush.

Menu->Brush->Paint Mode

Key F1 -> Matte
Key F2 -> Colour
Key F3 -> Replace

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- The tool circles is not really perfect circle


Check that Menu->Settings->Graphics->Square Pixels is ticked.


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- The paint bucket tool and hard to know which part of the pointer can fill color.


I agree it can be a bit fiddly!

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I do not know if an update is planned but I will like her bug is correct because at the moment is not usable PPaint


Hopefully the above has helped, please feel free to ask any other questions.

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sinisrus 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 10-Oct-2015 19:50:34
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@broadblues

Thank for your reply

The tool free cute is KO => The tool just above the magnifying glass but not cut square =>cut free

Last edited by sinisrus on 10-Oct-2015 at 07:58 PM.

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broadblues 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 10-Oct-2015 20:58:15
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@sinisrus

OK I think I understand what you mean now, this is the same bug as the free hand fill tool lockup and is fixed in my latest builds.

I'm sure there will be further updates, but can't guess as too schedule at the moment.

Are your other points cleared up?

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Lazi 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 21-Feb-2016 21:26:16
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@broadblues

I stepped into a nasty bug in PPaint 7.3a on OS4.1 FE.

If you want to dither a freehand area, it will crash.

Details: http://crashlog.os4depot.net/cl399

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broadblues 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 21-Feb-2016 22:18:43
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@Lazi

Yes, that's the same bug as the free hand fill reported above. Just accessed via a different route.

I tested and could reproduce on my public distro and retested and confirmed fixed on my latest build.

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Lazi 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 21-Feb-2016 23:07:36
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@broadblues

Thanks, waiting for the update.

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saimo 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 24-Feb-2016 21:24:54
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@broadblues

I've come across this thread and I thought I'd ask whether you received the bug report I submitted on Jan. 29th via AmiStore (system icons and fonts rendering corruption caused by modes with less than 32 colors). If not, please let me know.

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broadblues 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 24-Feb-2016 21:52:52
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@saimo

No, don't submit bugs that way, who knows where they end up? I don't own the product, so they likely end up in matthew or trevors spam directory

As to your bug if you mean the strange corruption that can occur when using the same mode as the workbench but with fewer colours, then that's the lesser of two weird bugs to do with limited colour palettes on 32bit screens.

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Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 6:48:14
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@broadblues

when can we expect to have a new version with bug correction?

currently PPaint 7.3 is really not usable

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ilbarbax 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 8:28:38
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I've been quite deluded by the exterior aspect of the program.
No une change respect the original ppaint. I would like to see a better integration with the wb using standard menus and not those 2.04 style , new icons may be in a separate window etc.

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saimo 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 16:53:17
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@broadblues

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As to your bug if you mean the strange corruption that can occur when using the same mode as the workbench but with fewer colours, then that's the lesser of two weird bugs to do with limited colour palettes on 32bit screens.


It sounds like it's that bug. It goes like this: when I work with 16 colors or less, the rendering of pre-existing and newly rendered fonts and icons on the (32 bit) WB gets corrupted. Refreshing the WB doesn't help, and closing PP neither.
This happens with both my customized installation of PP and the default one.
One way to work around it is this:
1. starting PP in 256 colors;
2. closing WB from PP;
3. setting the video mode needed;
4. reopening the WB.
After reading your message, I've tried to use a screen with a resolution different than WB's, and indeed the problem did not occur.

My system is A1 XE G4, Radeon 9000, AOS 4.1 FE, compositing enabled. I have been using PP 7.1c for years without problems.

Last edited by saimo on 25-Feb-2016 at 07:12 PM.
Last edited by saimo on 25-Feb-2016 at 04:54 PM.

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Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 17:59:09
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@saimo

Yes, that same thing I'm talking about. I'm fairly sure it's bug in gfx library.

It's caused when I blit from a paletted mapped screen into a true colour screen where the palette SA_Depth has been set to the depth of the screen I'm blitting from.

I can get rid of it by setting the depth to exactly the depth of the true colour screen, but then a much nastier gfx bug occurs which creates some strange masking effects, that eventuallty make rendering correctly to the ppaint screen impossible.

So this weirdness is the lesser of two evils TBH.

BTW nothing gets corrupted, the effect you see is that black and transparent areas show the underlying windows with fully saturated colours, and certain other colours (possibly those in PPaints pallette) appear saturated too, but If you capture the screen you see no corruptions.

If it's really to much of problem you can switch off the mode romotion by removeng the PROMOTE=24 line from the prefs, but then you'll be running on a true CLUT screen with all the disadvatnages that entails.

Just work on a 256 colour palette then reduce, would be my advice.

There is bug report raised. #8850 for any one that needs to know

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I have been using PP 7.1c for years without problems.


7.1c doesn't have the mode promote feature.

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saimo 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 19:16:09
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@broadblues

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If it's really to much of problem you can switch off the mode romotion by removeng the PROMOTE=24 line from the prefs, but then you'll be running on a true CLUT screen with all the disadvatnages that entails.

I'll try this. If it doesn't work out, I'll use a screen with a different resolution.

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Just work on a 256 colour palette then reduce, would be my advice.

This would make pixelling more uncomfortable due to the small palette slots.

Thanks for the quick reply.

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saimo 
Re: Bug of PPaint Os4.1
Posted on 25-Feb-2016 20:07:21
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@saimo

Quote:

saimo wrote:
@broadblues

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If it's really to much of problem you can switch off the mode romotion by removeng the PROMOTE=24 line from the prefs, but then you'll be running on a true CLUT screen with all the disadvatnages that entails.

I'll try this. If it doesn't work out, I'll use a screen with a different resolution.

Just tried: not usable, because everything comes to a crawl (the single reason why I bought the native version is precisely speed).
For now I'll stick to another resolution, then. And I'm looking forward to bug fixes in AOS (and PP, if that's the case)

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