I am seriously torn between running a Blizzard 1220 card, a Blizzard 030 and an 060 board. The modest board shows the Amiga off with just 4MB fast mem. The 030 with 64MB is both compatible and powerful but it can't run the latest big demoscene productions and the 060 is expensive and impressive but least compatible for classic games. Only room for 1 Amiga. Which should I stick with?

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@A1200

68060 for your Amiga and 68030 as a backup.

@A1200

B1230 with 8-MB should be 'good enough' for most games.

The 060 will have some advantages with 3D games ... but I would never buy an accelerator for demos you can watch on Youtube.

@OneTimer1

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but I would never buy an accelerator for demos you can watch on Youtube.

Yes, it's exactly the same feeling... (sarcasm inside).

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@A1200

Well, hardware specs are always driven by use cases, so the question begs another one: what do you want to do with it?

For a casual, play-a-few-games machine, I'd go 030 where the compatibility/speed/ram payoff is best.

With a take-anything-you-can-throw-at-it box, you have to go 060. But I'd keep the 1220 for compatibility.

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@A1200

For me 68040 is minium CPU. WIth it prety much every amiga game is playable and OS is snappy no matter how much you customise it.

WHDLoad solves 99,95%of compatibility problems.

@A1200

If you want to play games, buy the 1220 - or even better, just buy a simple FastRAM expansion. Best price/performance ratio. If you ignore PC ports, 99,9% of the Amiga games run fine with that kind of setup. If you really need to check out the few that don't and are worth playing (Alien Breed 3D, Napalm...), use an emulator.

For Workbench tinkering (Newicons/Glowicons, dozens of patches etc.) a 68030 is the minimum.

I'd never buy a 68060, way too expensive for what (little) it does these days. You'll get access to some more scene demos, but most other things it theoretically could do will require additional, expensive hardware (i.e. a PCI bus board and a graphics card) and/or feel horribly outdated by today's standards (web, productivity tools). It used to be the wet dream of every Amiga user I knew 20 years ago - now it's just hardware porn for the fetishists.

Since nobody has screamed "VAMPIRE!!!" yet, let me address that: way too early to buy one of these, IMHO. Let them fix the issues they still have and wait for some compatability lists before you buy.

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@A1200

The B1220 is disappointingly slow. 060 too expensive. Go for the B1230 (if it's 50MHz). It's a snappy card with good bang-for-the-buck IMO, and doesn't get too hot

I downgraded my A1200 from a BPPC060 back to a B1230/50 that I used to have before.

I use the X1000 for "modern" computing and the A1200 for retro moments

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@A1200

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/aca1221ec.html

Lots of features (including two clock ports), RAM and a faster CPU at a very low cost!

@A1200,

Never had a problem with old game on an 060 but helps on new ones, Doom, Genetic species etc...

Ok after considering what's possible with the 030 /68882 50MHz you only need to look at something like TBl's Tint demo. The 060 is going to cost me at least twice as much but up to three times as much. My Blizzard's 030 chip is a revision C so the whole thing runs with a moderate temperature. If I got another 060 (had one years ago) it would run more stuff but the it would be like what about PPC/Picasso/audio card etc. So going to stick with the B1230/50MHz/64MB/FPU. Thanks to all who put opinion across on here and the other forums I posed this question.

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@A1200,

The 030 has the best combo of speed and compatibility for sure.

@cgutjahr

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cgutjahr wrote: Since nobody has screamed "VAMPIRE!!!" yet, let me address that: way too early to buy one of these, ...

Ack, especially because there is no Vampire available for the A1200.

AFAIK the Apollo / Vampire team start development after they are ready with the stand alone Version.

@A1200

I like playing Napalm, using Photogenics 5, Deluxe Paint V and Draw Studio 2. Although a 030 is ok for Deluxe Paint IV (version V is too slow on a 030) and Draw Studio 2 (although rendering an image in high DPI is slow), it is a far better experience for RTS games, 3D/2.5D games and Photogenics in particular on a 060. If you just want to play WHDLoad Zool or Rainbow Islands a 030 is good enough. If you want to be creative then get a 060. I wouldn't want to use a 020 in 2017. However, if you're patient wait for a Vampire 1200

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68040 accelerator could be option also. It offers big boost over 68030 but price is much less than 68060 accelerators.

@TRIPOS

Yes the 1221 is better than the 1220, good recommendation.

@Thread

I think it's only fair to say that as per the cloned thread on Amiga.org as of yesterday:

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Ok after considering what's possible with the 030 /68882 50MHz you only need to look at something like TBl's Tint demo. The 060 is going to cost me at least twice as much but up to three times as much. My Blizzard's 030 chip is a revision C so the whole thing runs with a moderate temperature. If I got another 060 (had one years ago) it would run more stuff but the it would be like what about PPC/Picasso/audio card etc. So going to stick with the B1230/50MHz/64MB/FPU. Thanks to all who put opinion across on here and the other forums I posed this question.

So the Blizzard 030 accelerator has it!

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@BigD

Good all around choice.