Read it here.

I just don't understand why they didn't run dnet in AOS4 PPC version?

As for iBrowse I'm exact the same opinion. It's unusable and slow! Voyager on my A3000T '060 runs faster.

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@mbilla

Funny - I have used IBrowse since January, when the PPC version of the OS became available to betatesters.

IBrowse has NEVER crashed on my A1.

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I remember reading a post from one of the Ibrowse devs where he mentioned a bug does exist that crashes when going to Ibrowse prefs. He said it has been fixed and the patch will be released soon.

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@GadgetMaster

Correct.

With regards to stability - the 68K emulation is much stricter than the real 68K chips, so they are less forgiving with bugs, hence the software may crash more often than on the real processors. I have the same issue with YAM68K on OS4.

With regards to speed - all I can say is it is way way faster on my A1 than my A1200 060, and thats without the native gfx yet - I was pretty amazed at the speed difference when I switched to my A1 to be honest, but I guess YMMV.

@mbilla

The unregistered version is much slower than the registered one (numer of connections).

On my A1 IBrowse works great! Impressive fast, i'm waiting the support of CSS then i'll register it.

About the review i don't understand why their ftp was slow, i got full speed with my A1.

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@mbilla

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I just don't understand why they didn't run dnet in AOS4 PPC version?

I think the purpose was to test how fast the emulator is, so that's the reason.

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@Vader

Haven't tested the suggestion you gave for getting into the prefs yet. But I guess Ibrowse uses internal image decoders ? Would it speed up if I set it to use the Datatypes that comes with the prerelease? If they are native ppc that is.

/Björn

Ibrowse works great here. Roughly the same speed as on my A4000/060/Voodoo.

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IMHO: pretty balanced review.

(I disagree on the matter that AOS4 developer pre-release was released too early. It was hight time to release at least something.)

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See my comment on the review page.

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@Orgin

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Haven't tested the suggestion you gave for getting into the prefs yet.

It will solve the problem. IIRC, the locale settings changed in OS4 which highlighted a bug in the prefs that was never shown under OS3. By not having any locale settings, the bug is not triggered. However, it does not crash on every installation with the locale settings set, for example I can only reproduce it on my system if I boot from the pre-release CD and load IB that way. If I boot my normal system and load the prefs it works just fine.

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But I guess Ibrowse uses internal image decoders ?

By default, yes.

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Would it speed up if I set it to use the Datatypes that comes with the prerelease? If they are native ppc that is.

Yes, but you will loose certain features of the internal decoders, such as progressive display. I personally use the datatypes and they work very well.

To head off the next question, PPC native image decoders are not currently planned for the 68K version of IBrowse. Oliver can give the technical reasons, but iirc, it comes down to context switches, which means little speed up will result.

@Vader

Thanks :)

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To head off the next question, PPC native image decoders are not currently planned for the 68K version of IBrowse. Oliver can give the technical reasons, but iirc, it comes down to context switches, which means little speed up will result.

Well, I'd personally want a native ppc browser anyway ;)

/Björn

An interesting review although it seemed to focus 100% on old AmigaOS programs. I suppose we should expect everyone to be focusing on emulation first but I know I don't give a h00t how fast the emulator runs as I'd rather see a PPC native version of everything I need. Each to their own I guess.

In regards to LAN speed problems, I can believe it was slow because there are still problems with that older eth3com.device in some LAN configurations. It can cause bursty traffic, high collisions and stalling. The latest eth3com I've been beta testing fixes those problems but it isn't yet ready for general release. I also know that 68k networking apps are much slower then PPC native networks apps so that will hit your performance figures as well.

As for the pre-release not being ready yet, I think the author forgot this is a developer pre-release meant for developing OS4 native apps and testing them. It can also be used as a general purpose AmigaOS of course but I think a lot of people are forgetting about the developer focus of this thing.

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Well, this is my first post with OS4 & Ibrowse.

I've changed a few settings and it hasn't crashed here.

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@ssolie

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As for the pre-release not being ready yet, I think the author forgot this is a developer pre-release meant for developing OS4 native apps and testing them. It can also be used as a general purpose AmigaOS of course but I think a lot of people are forgetting about the developer focus of this thing.

100% ack. I'm a developer, and from my point it is very useable to code on it. There are some issues, but hey, it's the first release.
And Hyperion already states that they are fixing some problems like gcc being slow like hell (compiled the smbfs tool , it took ages here ;), but you can work on it and it runs very stable, even when doing nasty things while coding which would crash classic Amiga immediatly hehe

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@mbilla

This puzzled me.... From the article:

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We managed to get about 0.5 MB/s over the 100Mbit LAN

I find that strange as one test i made got in excess of 2 million CPS without any JIT.

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