@Wol

Actually, before OS4 had DST support you could do this but had to manually supply the correct timezone offset, since the time you got back was always in GMT.

Now you set-up your DST settings and it automatically adjusts the ntp time accordingly - just as you'd expect.

The only thing that puzzles me is that there seem to be two places in Prefs to configure the Timezone (Locale prefs and Timezone prefs, if I remember rightly). On the bright side they both seem to share the same data, but it seems odd that there are two places to do this - will one of them be going away at some point in the future?

@madtrekker

Well, Timezone Prefs has a checkbox (already ticked) that says "Use Locale preferences", so I'm guessing TZ Prefs will eventually go away.

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I meant in plain English

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@Chris_Y

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I meant in plain English

Quote from the link I posted :

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One example is that United States and Canada will extend Daylight Saving Time from 2007, and probably other regions and countries in Northern America will follow. The new start date will be the second Sunday in March (currently first Sunday in April), to the first Sunday in November (currently last Sunday in October).

@AmigaPhil

Worked like a charm...

Now if I could only get all the clocks in my house to work as good.

@syrtran

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What I discovered: In the LOCALE:Timezones/ drawer are multiple XML files. Each file is for a different country, with the name -countryname-.timezone (e.g. Argentina.timezone). Inside the XML file is an array of < dict > entries for each timezone within that country, with each entry having its own TZONE string.

Rather than submit a replacement OS4:/Locale/timezones/United States.timezone, I think those of us affected might enjoy running the OS4:Utilities/PrefsObjectsEditor to effect what's been described here (at least for their own timezone).

With that utilitiy [Open] [Volumes] [OS4:] [Locale] [Timezones]

The --Please specify a filename-- window is empty. You need to change the Pattern. Remove the .xml from the end leaving just #?, then press [Return] and all the timezone files appear. Double click on your country.

You will see that [-]Root is highlighted. Click on your TZone numbered line for the Rule. In my case it was TZone|2|Rule which then at the bottom gave me:

M4.1.0/2,M10.5.0/2 which I changed to
M3.2.0/2,M11.0.0/2

Now the more fun part. I [New sibling], made the name NOTE:, Type = String, and Value = See up a couple levels at NOTE:

I clicked to highlight [-]Root and clicked [New child], called it also NOTE: with a string value of

See www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/TZ-Variable.html

Now this editor stuck it at the bottom so I used the v ^ arrow buttons of the editor GUI to move it up to the top where I would more likely see it in the future.

I'm lazy so I didn't change the rest of the TZone to be correct. (I'm not moving anytime soon and this *is* a personal computer.)

[Save] [Quit] Curious, but unlike other Amiga software, if I went straight to [Quit] I was warned that I was about to lose my changes, but I was NOT given the option to save before quitting.

That editing done I chose to CTRL + LAmiga + RAmiga (a finger poke in all the other OS I have to use while working) and less than a minute later was rewarded with seeing the official time showing properly.

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@Chris_Y

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Chris_Y wrote: @nzv58l What is the new rule? I'd like to change the internal rule in FACTS. Chris

So, did you?

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All I did was to go into the Workbench drawer, select Show all, Went into the Locale drawer, then into Timezones and searched for the United States.timezone and Highlighted the Icon and right clicked to do an edit on it.

Once inside the file you will see the values mentioned above and just switch them and reboot.

I let my machine run past 2:00 AM and it switched imediatly. Didn't even notice. The string I used was M3.2./2.M11.1.0/2 and it worked beautifully.

It would be nice to have a point and click or a replacement for these files, but for the number of times your going to do this, I don't think it would be worth the effort. I have sort of a pet peave about the daylight savings time. Have a score of clocks to change, but the Amiga is going to remember and do it automatically. Windows will give me some intrusive flash about that it had to change the time. Not sure what a Mac does, but I did get a chance to help my mother-in-law set her new Mac up. One thing I noticed is that it does not allow you to back out of anything and the eject for the CD is kind of awkward. I am not jealous of the Mac when compared to the A1. I have experience with the PC and the Mac and to be honest they both have their strengths, but the Amiga One is far more simple to use even though the others may have a few eye candy things that look cool. Operationally I find that OS4 does more of what an OS should do and does not make you feel like the computer is controling you.
I sure hope that someone will make some good decisions and bring the Amiga OS where it belongs in the hands of both people familiar with the Amiga and with the people that just want an OS that does what you want it to do.

@nzv58l

EDIT: Never mind, I see the value is from gnu TZ. Sheesh, only a unix coder could come up with such an opaque notation.

Last edited by CodeSmith on 12-Mar-2007 at 07:42 AM.

I made the changes suggested, but now when I update through the Clock using the internet the time is back an hour. Is there anything else I need to change.

Thnaks,
John Paul

@nzv58l

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Personally I never liked Daylight Savings Time.

I don't like switching, but I do prefer DST over "real time". So to be a weirdo protester, I've stayed on DST for about 7 years now. Everyone else agrees with my watch during he summer, but in the winter I'm an hour ahead of everyone else. Hey, it's nice to have sunlight until 5PM when everyone else sees it get dark at 4.

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@billt

That sounds like the best solution yet. Just stay on Daylight Savings time and leave it. Just give the kiddies some shaker flashlights for going to school in the winter and we are all set!

@cope

I wonder if it is because you set it afterwords. I would just make the changes and manually change your time on your system and then see if it changes correctly in November. Remember that there are more than one of them in each timezone file so you have to change it in the timezone you are in.

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So, did you?

Yes, but I've only just changed it (yesterday, when the thread resurfaced) and haven't uploaded yet.

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I hate daylight settings. Why the world just put the clock 30minutes in middle and keep it 4ever so we dont need to worry. Would be easier and people wont come late/too early to work etc when the changes are done.

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Chris_Y wrote: @Moxee Quote: So, did you? Yes, but I've only just changed it (yesterday, when the thread resurfaced) and haven't uploaded yet. Chris

Tick-tock, tick-tock.

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@Chris_Y

I should mention that all I did was to tick the DST box in Facts and it brings up the correct time for me.

What's all the fuss?

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@Moxee

Yes, it will. It's just the automatic change that will happen at the wrong time.

There are some manual settings you can put in as well.

No rush for the new version now until shortly before they go back

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by Kicko on 12-Mar-2007 20:36:03 I hate daylight settings..

me too!!