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Darth_X 
Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 20:25:35
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The best way to get Papyrus ported to OS4 would be to write up a business plan, get 2000 of your closest Amiga fans to put in $2000 each, and fly out to visit the Papyrus guys do business.

Hope I don't get labelled a troll for making this suggestion!

/me ducks

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Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 22:10:45
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The best way to get Papyrus ported to OS4 would be to write up a business plan, get 2000 of your closest Amiga fans to put in $2000 each, and fly out to visit the Papyrus guys do business.


Sorry, with that amount of cash I would personally hire a team to port OpenOffice.org.

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IanS 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 22:19:51
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4 million bucks? For Papyrus Office? Sorry Darth, but I'm with Rogue on this one

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Darth_X 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 22:26:34
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I would consider Gobe Productive before Open Office.

Isn't Open Office bloatware? Well, wouldn't be any worse than say MS Office

http://www.gobe.com/

However, think about this, Papyrus should be smaller, quicker to port, and easier to support than something like Open Office. Get Papyrus first, then... work on the bigger production

How's that for trolling?

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MagicSN 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:01:34
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4 Million Bucks ? And only port OpenOffice ? :)

With that I would port OpenOffice AND buy licences for several currently-or-even-future top-selling PC-games and finance the porting as well :)

Hehehe...

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tomazkid 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:21:27
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4 Million Bucks ? And only port OpenOffice ? :)
With that I would port OpenOffice AND buy licences for several currently-or-even-future top-selling PC-games and finance the porting as well :)


Does that include the Warcraft-series?
And while your at it, port Starcraft as well

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IanS 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:38:53
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How about we start a petition for 2,000 people to donate $2,000 dollars each (in true Red Troll style)?

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Darth_X 
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Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:48:50
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Petition?

/me falls onto the floor writhing in pain!!!! The pain! The Pain!

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Rogue 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:52:02
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Isn't Open Office bloatware?


I prefer the word "functional" over "bloatware". The word "bloatware" is often used by people that don't have anything better than a minimally functional implementation of a component (say, a word processor) and think that a 100MB tarball must be "bloatware".

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However, think about this, Papyrus should be smaller, quicker to port, and easier to support than something like Open Office. Get Papyrus first, then... work on the bigger production


I'd love to see Papyrus for OS 4, although I don't know the program. However, the interest from Titan wasn't exactly overwhelming.

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Bodie 
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Posted on 22-Jan-2004 23:55:22
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Darth_X wrote:
How's that for trolling?


Your trolling abilities have somewhat waned during these past few months. Dude, your getting old

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IanS 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
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@Darth_X
Well that was the idea

In all honesty I would LOVE to see if the sourcecode to Wordworth/Final Writer could be obtained from the respective owners, and then to be updated with "industry standard" import/export filters.

How practical this is, however, remains to be seen.

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CanGuy 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 0:00:20
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Sorry Darth, but I'm with Rogue on this one

I agree, OO would be great to have. I get the feeling that it's going to become something of an anti-MSOffice standard in the next few years. Too bad it doesn't currently come with a database- though I'm sure it will eventually get one.

Zoltan

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mbilla 
Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 6:19:29
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@ Rogue
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I'd love to see Papyrus for OS 4, although I don't know the program.


Me too.

Papyrus is ONE program which includes WP, Spreadsheet and Database and Formula Editor.

But Everything is done in the WP, there is no extra window for the spreadsheet or database (which is relational btw).
No need to import or export files into the WP.
This also means that you can the functions of each part of the prog used in another one. Spreadsheet formulas inside Wp or inside DB, or DB inside WP or Spreadsheet etc.

Plus the WP is very fast and does have DTP features.
At the official page of Papyrus is a demo available fro Windows.

I don't think that porting Papyrus to AOS4 is difficult as an Alpha Version for Aos 3.x is ready and functional.

The Morphos version is beta for now, as is written in AmigaPlus which also shows some Morphos Papyrus screenshots.

Manou

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sicky 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 9:11:02
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I tried to talk to Titan with regard to doing an OS4 version of Papyrus but they seemed very pro Genesi and had nothing nice to say about Eyetech, Hyperion or Amiga...... so who's the fools?

Have a look at Abiword here http://www.abisource.com/ from what I know it's open source, not bloatware (your definition) and apparently far easier to port to other platforms than the likes of Open Office

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MagicSN 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 10:44:40
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Well, I think several 100000 USD should be enough to convince Blizzard. But anyways, I do not have those amounts of money, so the whole argument
is purely theoretical :( And I am afraid they would not
agree for ANY "realistic" (for the port) amount of
licence fee, but only for something huge... :(

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sicky 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 11:03:23
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@ MagicSN

"And I am afraid they would not agree for ANY "realistic" (for the port) amount of licence fee, but only for something huge."

I think Titan are, as the expression goes "cutting of their nose to spite their face". How many copies of Papyrus do they think they can sell to MorphOS users, they (MorphOS users) will be vastly outnumbered by Amiga OS4 users so why cut off your largest chunk of potential customers?

They must be influenced by something/someone else I guess...... now who could that be?

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Re: Papyrus for OS4: Vote YES!
Posted on 23-Jan-2004 11:18:28
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sicky wrote:
@ MagicSN

"And I am afraid they would not agree for ANY "realistic" (for the port) amount of licence fee, but only for something huge."

I think Titan are, as the expression goes "cutting of their nose to spite their face". How many copies of Papyrus do they think they can sell to MorphOS users, they (MorphOS users) will be vastly outnumbered by Amiga OS4 users so why cut off your largest chunk of potential customers?

They must be influenced by something/someone else I guess...... now who could that be?


Not that I'm sure, but weren't MagicSN speaking of Blizzard and not Titan? Is it me mixing up the two things, or..?

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EntilZha 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 12:36:55
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4 Million Bucks ?


God help us. One Buck is already enough, we don't need more.

William Buck, Bert Buck and Tom Buck, anyone
(And 10 Bucks for those who get the point )

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EntilZha 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 12:38:48
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so who's the fools?


I could tell you, but I'm too nice for that...

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ikir 
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Posted on 23-Jan-2004 16:15:01
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Starcraft? Ehmmmmm it is a dream. Blizzard and valve are similiar=no port.

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