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sananaman 
Size of the Amiga community?
Posted on 29-Sep-2006 6:10:29
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1.> How many ppl are there in the Amiga community world wide?

2.> How many OS4 licenses are sold world wide?

Are we talking about thousands? hundred of thousands?

Anyone any idea?

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Re: Size of the Amiga community?
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1.> How many ppl are there in the Amiga community world wide?

2.> How many OS4 licenses are sold world wide?

Are we talking about thousands? hundred of thousands?

Anyone any idea?


1. An estemate would be around 5-8000. at most

2. No one knows. (By licenses you mean sold AmigaONE with OS4 ? )
But i have read alot of diffrent guessings. Around 1500.

"housands? hundred of thousands?" - You must be joking ?

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Re: Size of the Amiga community?
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"thousands? hundred of thousands?" - You must be joking ?

Yeah, "millions" would be more appropriate WE ARE THE AMIGANS. YOU WILL BE ASIMILATED, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, YOU WILL BECOME ONE WITH THE AMIGA!

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Re: Size of the Amiga community?
Posted on 29-Sep-2006 7:31:34
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@sananaman

I would think the Amiga community is about 800 miles squared. Give or take a couple of yards.

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Does that include all the "camps"?

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See this thread.



Or did you mean something else ?

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During the last two months, we have contact many magazine and on-line magazine to talk about amiga and discuss about new hardware projects. It's incredible the acceptance we reveiced. Many of the people we contacted, was amigans in the past and they are ready to return.

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Posted on 29-Sep-2006 9:24:17
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@sananaman

It’s where hard to say,
I guess most active Amiga community members are active on community forums like this one, then there is few that are registered on several sites, then you have some that are only registered on there local community web sites Danish / Swedish / Norwegian / German / Italian web sites, I assume there is a few that do not read forums (inactive Amiga heads).

For the cw.device I uploaded I have around 70 downloads, but only a few comments from 3-4 different community members, no I don’t expect every one to make comment but I expected more comments form community members.

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Posted on 29-Sep-2006 9:31:15
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Remember that not all that many people will have Catweasels to try it on though. :)

I may well get one now, of course.... from what I've seen it looks like you've done a good job though and any development for OS4 should be applauded.

Now if only I could get my hands on the Radeon overlay driver I may be able to do something more on my TV card driver...!

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hatschi 
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During the last two months, we have contact many magazine and on-line magazine to talk about amiga and discuss about new hardware projects. It's incredible the acceptance we reveiced. Many of the people we contacted, was amigans in the past and they are ready to return.


Did you also mention the estimated prices of these hardware platforms?

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No. I don't know any price. I just heard that Samantha is cheaper, but i don't know the details.


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No. I don't know any price. I just heard that Samantha is cheaper, but i don't know the details.


Let's keep fingers crossed then. The thing is, when I was telling friends about the current "Amiga" and OS4, they were generally very interested - especially when they used to have one back in the 80/90ies. However, it all stops when mentioning estimated prices (not referring to Sam here) and limitation to PPC.

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@sananaman
Depends on what you define as being in the amiga community. I think there is quite a few people who use an amiga of some sort while at the same time not posting at the forums.

There is actually still companies that use it professionally with for example scala or something similar and i doubt they would post here.

There was not many os4 licenses sold, which i think was mainly due to shortage of hardware when OS4 pre release arrived.
OS4 did not arrive for the amigaone owners before they had basicly stopped producing them.

Last edited by Tomas on 29-Sep-2006 at 10:38 AM.
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However, it all stops when mentioning estimated prices (not referring to Sam here) and limitation to PPC.

Then tell them to try the emulation at least

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Re: Size of the Amiga community?
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However, it all stops when mentioning estimated prices (not referring to Sam here) and limitation to PPC.

Then tell them to try the emulation at least


Did that, told them. And that's even exactly what most of them really wanted: Having access to AmigaOS1.x-3.x on their PC, mainly for playing games and for getting their retro-fix. No need to spend 1000 EUR for playing around with a more limited (E-UAE) version.

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And that's even exactly what most of them really wanted


The software base on OS4 will have to build up to give them reason to want to buy the new system.

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Size of the Amiga community?

Does size matter ?

And BTW, Welcome to AW !!

Jerry

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And that's even exactly what most of them really wanted

The software base on OS4 will have to build up to give them reason to want to buy the new system.


Yes, that's another valid point. But: When they think of "Amiga", they think of those great games of the 80ies/90ies. They never think about the OS or apps. They are not interested *that much* in a new/NG version of AmigaOS. I would even say that they belong to the typical Amiga user at that time: A500/A600 and maybe an extra floppy or 512kb trapdoor extension. Games, games, games...

Back to the topic, if there is any interest in expanding the community *considerably* apart from us geek-users (I am not speaking of a few thousand), then exactly this group is the one to target IMHO. However, there are different ways to do that. I am thinking of some sort of "Amiga NG OS & Emulation package", that offers the OS-experience with an emulator, including a nice frontend and games. Next question is hardware. Offering them this package for a custom PPC mainboard which they have to buy extra would surely be less successful than offering this package for e.g. PS3 or x86. Sorry, already running off topic again.

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@sananaman
1. Low thousands is my estimate with 68k and brand name follower groups being the largest followed by the emulation wannabe groups.
2. Only Hyperion have that figure and it is private but my guess would be around two thousand.

If/when all these new hardware platforms are running OS4 and selling I look forward to seeing the community grow again. Yeah, it likely will never be like the good old days but half the fun is not knowing and discovering exactly where this AmigaOS can go.

I noticed some of the critics believe they actually do know where AmigaOS is going (for example, nowhere on PPC or nowhere with the Amiga brand or nowhere without feature X) but then I wonder why they don't just buy winning lottery tickets then.

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Posted on 29-Sep-2006 15:23:20
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The TV card driver is where interesting project, I hope I se some demonstration of that once, maybe I buy a TV card some day.

And hopefully we get some descant form the sales we generate right?

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