@Foody

This is like a ying yang question,

Netami the ultimate classic hardware and software combination,
vs
AmigaONE X1000 the ultimate modern hardware and OS/Software combination.

Natami

For games and classic applications, its going to run AmigaOS3.9 whit all its limitations,
There might a few where nice AGA programs that might run where nicely on this computer.

You should not expect any new programs or software that's not already running under UAE, but at least you get synchronized smooth performance some thing you cant expect from UAE.

AmigaOS4.1 / AmigaONE / SAM440

you get a operating system whit 3d accelerated desktop, where good sound quality thanks to modern sound cards, and where fast graphics thanks modern ATI graphic cards, lots of new programs for audio and video mainly, modern classic applications (1995-2010) often work if they not too classic hardware depended, AmigaONE X1000 has dual core so you might expect dual core support in the OS in the future, a modern web browser is around corner, Gnash as been ported a while back but its only a player not a web browser plug-in, AmigaOS4.X delivers a where complete user experience,

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Everybody knows you wont buy anything.

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The Natami is a real 68k AMIGA with a real DMA driven AMIGA chipset.
The AMIGA Chipset is even super charged allowing HD level resolutions and truecolor.

The NATAMI is perfect for playing 2D games like this one.

We are working an several new high quality games for the NATAMI at the moment.

Even popular SDL games like this one will in fact run better on the NATAMI than on the Pegasus/A1.



The NATAMI is pure 68K.
Its a real AMIGA and its able to run original AMIGA OS out of the box.

But the NATAMI is not designed for running PPC stuff.
If you are in running PPC applications then the NATAMI is not the right choice for you.

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@Channel_Z

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Channel_Z wrote: @Foody People have been bickering on and off and fighting about so many things that they have forgotten what made the Amiga so great - the combination between great software and unique custom hardware.

I couldn't agree more.

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@Stephen_Robinson

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Stephen_Robinson wrote: @Foody Given the choice between what's available now and what MAY be available in the future, I'd go for the Sam Flex to be honest. If you couldn't get a second hand Pegasos 2 that is.

I think the X1000 will be with us in a few months so not too long to wait. Having siad that, it will not be cheap. Considering the cost your logic is sound.

I have a feeling I'm going to end up buying the Sam Flex too.

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@Hypex

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Hypex wrote: @Foody I'd like to see the Natami chipset come on a plug in card for the X1000. Perhaps the perfect combination would be a Natami in the X1000 Xorro slot!

We are on the same page. This is my hope as well. Hopefully when the X1000 comes out and we get some more info om Xena / Xorro we will know if it is possible.

Chris

@QuikSanz

You are expecting Natami and X1000 to merge together when Natami is not even out yet?

@BigGun

I have a request, can you port a real cool MMORPG for Natami as one of the game projects please??

@clusteruk

"All in all what a great position we are in, loads of hardware around the corner."

INDEED!

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@fryguy

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fryguy wrote: @Foody I believe Natami is vapor.

Hello FryGuy!!!

I am think you really misinformed! I think when you should go to natami forum pages and see it running!

Many of the post have the picture. I post one you see setup.

Funny I believe X1000 I see no pictures, but faith, You have pictures of Natami to see when though you no believing it real. Funny!

@BigGun

What is that SDL game that you have a picture of in your post? it looks nice..

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@Foody

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Foody wrote: @QuikSanz You are expecting Natami and X1000 to merge together when Natami is not even out yet?

Why not just get a Minimig for classic amiga computing, i really love my minimig.

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@Ande

Yeah, just tape it inside the X1000's case and get a monitor/mouse/kb switcher and your done

Anyway, Natami looks very nice indeed, but is it the way forward ? I dont think so.
Looking forward to see it in action though !

I might get a X1000 if I can afford it, and if it has a major added value (software wise) over my XE.

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What is that SDL game that you have a picture of in your post? it looks nice..

The game is Robin Hood - which i was involved porting.
AMIGA port of RobinHood

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@Foody,

Not expecting. I never "expect" anything "Amiga"

It maybe possible to put a card in. ever hear of "Emplant"?

We will not know what can be done until we see what the Xena and Xorro combination can provide. If the right comination of things are there, then many things are possible.

At that point all that,s needed is a card with all the correct port connectors there.

Chris,

PS: Neither machine is "out", so we wait.

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I'd love getting a Natami when it's out, but unless they go ASIC for the CPU, and do a *tremendous* amount of work on a better design than the original 68k series, there's just no way it'll be able to compete with any reasonably modern PPC without far exceeding it in cost - fast FPGA's are expensive.

If I get a Natami when they're out, it will be for fun and nostalgia reasons - I really loved programming asm for the 68k - as something more usable than my Minimig.

It'll take a couple of years of FPGA cost reductions and speed increases before they have much of a hope of getting the Natami fast enough for day to day use for me...

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@Ande

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Why not just get a Minimig for classic amiga computing, i really love my minimig.

Hi,

Your right. Nothing is out yet. I would rather have a Natami then a MiniMig anyday.

1) Faster by light years.

2) Super AGA

3) No memory limits

and the list goes on.

Chris

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A lot of nice SW being developed by those Natami ppl: http://www.greyhound-data.com/gunnar/


(reminded me again that a lot of SW is only on some Amiga sub-niche, and not available to everybody. It sucks!)

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@QuikSanz

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QuikSanz wrote: @Ande Quote: Why not just get a Minimig for classic amiga computing, i really love my minimig. Hi, Your right. Nothing is out yet. I would rather have a Natami then a MiniMig anyday. 1) Faster by light years. 2) Super AGA 3) No memory limits and the list goes on. Chris

Yes but the minimig is for real, we dont know for sure if we will ever see Natami

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Well, SDL needs to be taking advantage of your Natami for apps like this to have any advantage I guess.

Btw, how are you going to access to higher resolutions/depths from the WB without any RTG library ?

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