I forgot to say, I voted yes (quite a while ago).

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so I would expect nothing older than a G5...

oh yeah, and with his huge watercooling device !

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Greypatch wrote: ... I have a 2000, but I can't upgrade it to have enough memory to run all my HD installed games (plus the hard drive crashed on me, my first ever major crash). Now I have a desktop 3000, which runs great, but no CD drive in it so I have to get a SCSI CD just to install 3.5, ...

You coould as well take an ordinary IDE CD drive and connect it via Acard IDE -> SCSI adaptor.

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Greypatch wrote: AND the current PPC cards not only need mods to work in the thing, they all sell for $500+ USD on eBay.

I have no experience in fitting an PPC accelerator into an A3000.
But I have an A4000 with CSPPC - no modification required there.

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Just for fun with current totals:

Poll : Would you be interested in buying a new PPC card for your classic Amiga?
Yes!
58 % (277)
No!
27 % (131)
Maybe!
14 % (69)
Total Votes: 477
Total Voters: 477

Poll : Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Yes
42 % (108)
No
27 % (70)
Pancakes
30 % (78)
Total Votes: 256
Total Voters: 256

Seems if there was no action on the item with greater interest (for YEARS), that the latest numbers we see from the current Troika thread would have even less motivation behind it.
Of course, that's if we were talking "sales/revenue", as opposed to some other reasoning.

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@number6

Do you think the Troika poll would have had more votes if they'd shown it running OS4.

@Mikey_C

Yes I would. But it would have to be a G3 and preferably with an 68k-processor on it too, maybe as a FPGA.

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Do you think the Troika poll would have had more votes if they'd shown it running OS4.

I have no idea.
But I *bumped* this one because it's been a neglected opportunity for 10 years and we're having our weekly thread about this on amiga.org....again.

And by "10 years", I mean since the idiotic statement "classic is dead" was made.

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@Mikey_C

I'd buy IF it were about half the price you mention,presuming it would be comparable specs to the cards selling on ebay.

Which is also why I've yet to get one of those cards:it just isn't worth $600+ USD to me .
That much money will buy a lot more performance in intel or AMD hardware.

Reminds me of my 1973 Opel GT;it was fun to drive,to have something different.But after someone borrowed and wrecked mine,it had to become a fond memory because new ones weren't available here ,the used ones available here needed lots of work or were overpriced.So I opted for the affordable,common-place sedan.It does everything the Opel GT did except garner comments.(Or go 110 mph!)I COULD get another Opel GT IF I was willing to pay premium collector price.

I understand the realities of being in business,but the sad fact is darn near everything Amiga related is horribly over-priced and now without any clear advantage over other platforms.

Without NewTek and the Video Toaster, Amiga would have faded even earlier.

@BigC

That's another interesting fact about this [poll]'s results, since it IS based on the numbers from post #1:

£280 UKP
$580 USD
¤390 EUR
$657 AUS
$576 CAD

If it was cheaper, how high would these "yes" votes go?

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@wegster

average price of a CyberstormPPC with 060 was about 1000 EUR when still in production.

What make you think it would cost less now?


@Framiga


Because all other computers ,hard drives,etc. have dropped drastically in price ?

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@wegster average price of a CyberstormPPC with 060 was about 1000 EUR when still in production. What make you think it would cost less now?

good question.

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But I *bumped* this one because it's been a neglected opportunity for 10 years and we're having our weekly thread about this on amiga.org....again.

No faith anymore, everyone needs to see a video.

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@number6

Forget the 68060-I mean,really,why do we need it?

THe Amiga has a built in 68xxx chip for the old stuff;the PPC chip is needed for the new stuff.

Or might we ask for an empty socket to plug in a 68030 or 68040 available from old Mac or the Amiga mb?


I'd be happy as a clam if I could buy a nice little board that plugged into one of my Amiga and simply had a socket to accept one of the common (and cheap) Sonnet PPC accelerator cards originally sold for Macs.Better have some drivers either downloadable or on CD,as well.Price that package at $99 to $149 and lots of Amiga users would be able to join the 4.0/4.1 world.

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Compatibility, whats the point of a classic without the classic?

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Yes I have a Mikronik Amiga 1300 in Murcia-Spain apparently managed by ASB-Computer (AMIGA SUPER BIT) and this year reaches the fourth year of waiting.
My vote is maybe because this strange management from the staff of this shop.
Does someone knows is ASB operates now on its shop or webpage?

If they send my beloved Amiga 1300 on good state and repaired I will go for sure for a new PPC card to enjoy more power.

My preference is the Shark PPC from Elbox but AmiTroika and PowerVixxen could be excellent purchases in features and responsiveness.

PowerPC is the best nothing comes close to this including my new Windows Visa adquired 13 days ago exactly.

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My preference is the Shark PPC from Elbox but AmiTroika and PowerVixxen could be excellent purchases in features and responsiveness.

Elbox doesn't have a whole lot of confident believers behind them here.
They are free to prove us wrong, though.

AmiTroika?
All you have atm is a thread on AW indicating a possible ng box. I wouldn't put that in the same category as a classic accelerator.

SAM?
Also not to be viewed as a classic accelerator.

PowerVixxen?
Specifically the PVLT. No. Never manufactured. Developer not active atm.

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BigC wrote: @wegster average price of a CyberstormPPC with 060 was about 1000 EUR when still in production. What make you think it would cost less now? @Framiga Because all other computers ,hard drives,etc. have dropped drastically in price ?

and what a custom (and still unique) Amiga CPU card would compare with "computers ,hard drives,etc" in term of design/production cost?

FYI the old CSPPC design is obsolete (in term of components) and it would require a full re-design.

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@Framiga

Then it becomes a question of how many are willing to pay $1000 to put a PPC board into aging ,obsolete hardware ?

Before spending $1000 on such a card better to buy a NEW SAMflex and case,OS,etc.

@Mikey_C

Hum.. US$ 550 are ¢ 328280 (Colones) Costa Rica Money--
or $1705¨ (Pesos) Argentina Money..

Sound a little Expensive..

But maybe.. Yes

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Sadly, I think this is less about the product itself or the price than it is about the current demands of the OS.
The powers that be are free to contact me if I'm wrong about that.

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