@Plexus

I`d like to see psx emu with natty extras like 2xsai textures, fsaa and that sort of thing.
Can fpse do this?

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@Helgis
That is entirely impossible, as the xbox use a intel cpu, which is vastly different from the ppc ones.
You would probably need a cpu that is atleast 10 times faster than the xbox to emulate it well enough for the emulator to be useful.

@All

Do you think this emulator opsession is getting overboard. I mean yes, there are some worthy emulation at hand like C64, and Amiga and even then these systems were not intended on a monitor resulting in hagrid ulgy games, but useful for developing purposes. I think emulating other PCs for or legacy computers is not a bad idea, but don't go ahead and emulating things like consoles. Please, for all your holly might, don't.

@Foody

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I think emulating other PCs for or legacy computers is not a bad idea, but don't go ahead and emulating things like consoles.

That is what you have to do when you lack native games.

@xeron

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The thing to remember is that the X-Box is more powerful than the AmigaOne, so any emulator would automatically run slower. So whats the point?

But the next AmigaOne models will (would be) faster than the current, so whats the point in having more powerful hardware, when there is no software to utilise it? Or you are assuming there will be no new AmigaOne models, or they won't be faster.

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@Frags

yes and no (fpse can do scaling and making games look better (via the w3d plugin)) ,as for 2xsai ...really cant see the point of that one when u have what we have today but yes it does need some more owrk to be perfect but hey i am sure amidog is thinkering with it when he can (and has the time)

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@drHirudo

hardly his point but...anyway here goes...

Try a DC emu on a pc (or saturn for that matter) , notice how mega souped up they need to be to offer a near playable state... yes something like 2ghz for saturn (thats what i heard anyway) and like double that for a near playable DC emulation ..

i'd rather prefer a saturn or dc or Jaguar support over XBOX and most of all i hate laggy software, i dont play ps1/2 games with slow fps unless its only a few places in the game there is the problem... now imagine playing Shinobi saturn version (which is a 60fps game) on a 2ghz pc in 8-10 fps......eeeew.

anyway i am sure someone could like dedicate alot of time and effort into dooing mega cool emulators for os4 and current hw but is it really worth it? ..i mean... we'd rather wait for atleast a doubled mhz compared to what we have today and then hopefully more developers have joined and such an thing might be possible to be done..

Take a look at the PSP , it just recently got snex9x with wifi support ...now imagine if our os4 port had tcp/ip support? ..now that would be cool... same goes for MAME kalliera and UAE Kalliera (or whatever theyre called ...ooooh we could play supercars 2 over the internet .... i'd rather do that then play some xbox fps at 1-10 fps and lots of gfx glitches and so on...)


ok..enough ranting...hmm guess i forgot what my point was...ugh...pffft..im tired

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@Toaks

People said the same for UAE when it appeared back in 1995 and even called it the Unusable Amiga Emulator. But as the technology advanced and the emulation technics as of the current date probably more people are using UAE than real Amigas.

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@Helgis

why xpox?? why not Ps2? it's have much better games....

granturismo4 and much much more good games...

and its ppc harware, and probaply easier to emulate.

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@Toaks

That`s cool, psx emu is one of the first things I`m gonna try on OS4 when my A1 drops out of the sky :o)

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@sloxa

agreed. :) all xbox games have this western pc feel, and a lot of ps2 games have that nice jap touch.

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@drHirudo

I would not count on that, perhaps you are right in a sense that a lot more using emulation over real ones, but those are the ones who are not much into Amiga scenes, or people who just want free games on their PC, or people use them for development purposes. I would like to think, that a lot more people prefer and use the real thing over an emulated thing.

@Helgis

no

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Do you think this emulator opsession is getting overboard.

I guess you wouldn't be interrested in my new project called Amil4 ? Do you think I should drop that project ?

This was to be an AmigaOS4 Emulation running like Native, and already able to emulate Pre-Release4. So far you can only run it in Full Screen Mode... This was the only way to have CreenDragging working correctly. It seems to support all the software currently running on AOS4_Upd4. It also run as fast as AmigaOS4_Update4 on an AmigaOne, and is really close to completion.

It will run (at the moment anyway) on one and only hardware yet... The AmigaOne ! And when you run it, you won't be able to tell the difference between AOS4_Update4 and Amil4. To complete it, I just need to upload the sticker to OS4Depot (does anyone know how ?)..., then to install it, download the sticker from OS4Depot, Download Update4 from Hyperion website. Burn the Update4 Image to a CD and at the same time you need to run the Sticker installation (it's located in your right hand between two fingers...). Then I'm not too sure. I'm still working on an Installation Script. If anyone wants to help.

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why xpox?? why not Ps2? it's have much better games....

Helgis is a closet MicroSoft fan.

@sloxa

Playstation 2 is really hard to emulate at speed. Its processor is MIPS, not PPC, and its custom chipset is very weird and not easily emulated.

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Playstation 2 is really hard to emulate at speed. Its processor is MIPS, not PPC, and its custom chipset is very weird and not easily emulated.

Now what does this say about the PS3 emulation? I know various people here have made claims that the PS3 will run every PS2 game. Microsoft did a PPC switch and is emulating x86 in software -- invariably not all games run. Sony is doing a PPC switch and is emuatling MIPS in software. Sony's bound to have more games running in software emulation but remember the PS2 emulation of PS1 is in hardware and it doesn't run every game. Heck the latest PS2 doesn't run every PS2 game.

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drHirudo wrote: @Toaks People said the same for UAE when it appeared back in 1995 and even called it the Unusable Amiga Emulator. But as the technology advanced and the emulation technics as of the current date probably more people are using UAE than real Amigas.

I clearly recall when it could only show the kickstart screen at maybe 2fps.... Those were the days

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@drHirudo

I think you underestimate how fast the next AmigaOne models would have to be. Anyway, there's got to be better reasons for faster hardware than an inferior emulation of a £90 console? It's not even like a Speccy emulator where you can shove a million games on 1 CD.

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