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Dwyloc wrote: @wegster Ok I will start by admitting that I am just back from the Pub.

Hi Dwyloc,


NoooOOOoooooOOoOoOOoooo!

GO BACK THERE!

@wegster

PV for 1200.

I think I've mentioned this, but I neede this to have a reason to make myself take a much more serious look at the OpenVT code.

'Course, my only fear is the darn thing won't fit in my RBM tower and still have enough clearance for cooling.



That, and whether Lightwave 5.0 will work with Petunia.

Okay, that's two fears - cooling, and Lightwave. Two fears. Definitely.



Oh, and Audio Thunder... three fears. Yup, three - cooling, LW, and AT. Or is that just two - cooling and software?


Um, I think I'd better stop now.

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I think ill go for the Troika board. It seems more powerful. Atleast the processor. I guess a G3 PPC 750Fx @ 800 Mhz is faster than a MPC 5200 @ 466MHz. Correct me if Im wrong though.

@CodeSmith

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CodeSmith wrote: @wegster If it is possible to easily disable the PV card to get the A1200 to work as default, or failing that to use the AGA chipset instead of the VGA card, I would buy the PV even though I have a working XE. Why? because that way I would have one single amiga that can run old software as well as new. I've spent some time thinking about it, and I've realized that unless we have some sort of breakthrough, I'm going to do all my CPU intensive stuff on my AMD64 box. The kinds of things that I do on my amiga are not going to benefit much from the extra 400MHz that a Amy'05 is going to give me. Plus if I am wrong and end up doing more serious stuff on the amiga, it will be good to have the A1200 to test the code on low-end machines.

I think the PowerVixxen will use the genlock video and audio mixer inputs on the trapdoor slot rather than bypassing the AGA chipset so you shouldn't have to stop and choose which chipset you need as it will use both. Just keep in mind you'll need a "silver box" adapter to hook it up to a VGA monitor(if my assumption about the genlock inputs is correct).
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Incidentally, I discovered with some dismay that my A1200 has had one of its keys bashed in (something must have fallen on it when it was in storage). The rest of the machine seems fine, just the one key is broken off. Do you guys know of anyone I can buy a reasonably new A1200 keyboard from in the USA? Since I'm not sure of the extent of the damage, I'd rather replace the entire keyboard than risk having a crack in the keyboard assembly cause a short that takes out one of the CIAs.

Check with Software Hut if they have the part. They deal in used stock as well as new.

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@Imerion

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Imerion wrote: I think ill go for the Troika board. It seems more powerful. Atleast the processor. I guess a G3 PPC 750Fx @ 800 Mhz is faster than a MPC 5200 @ 466MHz. Correct me if Im wrong though.

You are correct. The Troika will be at least twice as fast as the PowerVixxen.

@wegster

I already have an A1-XE G4 and therefore chose the last option: I will only buy another A1 (or replacement) when a higher speced such gets available.

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@Samurai_Crow

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You are correct. The Troika will be at least twice as fast as the PowerVixxen.

Given the MPC5200's lack of any Level-2 cache, the 750FX is probably more like 3-4 times faster

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I would rather go with the shark from Elbox, if it ever comes out. This would allow me to use OS4 on the first computer I ever bought (my A1200) ...ah, value for money.

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@Samurai_Crow

Are they still in business? great! I'll fire them off an email, thanks.

Frankly I don't think either is going to materialize any time soon; however, if I had to pick one I'd go with the board Adam K. is cooking up (the stand alone model).

For some reason it appeals to the tinkerer in me, and Adam hasn't put up some weird iWin-like site.

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@Deniil715

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Deniil715 wrote: @wegster I already have an A1-XE G4 and therefore chose the last option: I will only buy another A1 (or replacement) when a higher speced such gets available.

This is exactly the position I find myself in. I've never had an A1200, but I have an A4000D just sitting here unused because I use my A1-XE G4 every day. I will buy a new Amiga when it beats the pants off of my A1-XE G4.

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@wegster

I voted undecided. I'd like to see each of them before
deciding which I'd get. I definitely would be interested
in one of them, in addition to my AOne XE. Leaning
towards the standalone ACK, but have to see what
comes out, and what users think about it.

Regards,
Don Feldbruegge

I'm in the same bracket, wait and see.

I would rather go for a Dragon coldfire board for super fast 68k with Shark for PPC (and OS4), the Dragon is hopefully close but I ain't holdin' my breath. As for Shark, Elbox are waiting for the official OS4 release, strange as Hyperion are waiting for hardware.

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@wegster

I have my AmigaOne right now so I am hanginbg tight. I usually need a vast processing capability to spur my interest in upgrading and since I have a G4 this is not going to happen unless I see something like a Cell or a really small and cool board for a laptop version available.

@wegster

At the moment, my µA1 is waiting patiently for update #4.


Looks around cautiously ... Coast is clear so far ...

Whispers the following message ...

I am interested in both the Ack PowerVixxen and Troika Amy'05. Don't have an A1200, so I suppose the standalone version of the PV makes the most sense. But I'm not going to make any commitments in public until there is a actually a product for sale.

This message will self distruct if my wife reads it (she would think I was nuts to even imagine getting another board before OS4 final is released for my µA1).

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redfox

Hi @wegster

NO -- forever! I don't care what the price is -- it's about quality engineering. Is it there?

From May 1st, 2002 until now, I haven't seen any!

Maybe after a thousand reviews that it's great, I 'may listen'. Sorry ACK, this is not directed at
you, but the Amiga "next generation" market that came before you. My A1-XE/g4 is going on
three years old. I was never really happy with it hardware wise. No more at any price,
Thank You.

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@wegster

All I've seen of the Amy05 is a simple diagram that could be about anything and some pictures of chips. Has anyone really seen one? Talk about vaporware!

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@thinkchip

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All I've seen of the Amy05 is a simple diagram that could be about anything and some pictures of chips. Has anyone really seen one? Talk about vaporware!

Nope, no one has. However, this is not the thread for speculation on if it exists, or if Gold is (no 'doctor' here) Ryan Czerwinski, or anything else other than assuming they come out, who is interested and will buy either one.

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Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!

I wouldn't buy any of those crappy solutions. I've waited this long, I will continue to wait until something a little more modern is developed.

Many of you may have viewed my OS4 on Mac thread, and I think a Mac mini is a good idication of what the baseline hardware should be. Though I would prefer something even better.

$500US Mac mini buys you:
1.25 or 1.33Ghz G4 (depending on revision)
512mb DDR RAM
40GB notebook harddrive
Radeon 9200 AGP 4x with 32 or 64mb VRAM (depending on revision)
DVD combo drive
+other stuff

Why would I settle for a PCI-only motherboard and crappy G3 for that price?

Heck, they have to rework OS4 to run on these lame solutions anyway.

@wegster

I want the pda, or "mistery device"

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