I realize the Sam440 does not require nor need a cpu cooler. My question is, is adding one even an option? From the pictures I see no mounting holes.

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If you don't need one, why would you add one?

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If you don't need one, why would you add one?

To prolong the life of the CPU in a tight/hot/less ventilated box of course

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Deniil715 wrote: @sundown Quote: If you don't need one, why would you add one? To prolong the life of the CPU in a tight/hot/less ventilated box of course

Ummmmmmmm...... I could say SO much, but... I'll refrain...

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@Deniil715

With all due respect, I don't think you thought that answer out.
If the case isn't ventilated well, the heat would just stay inside the case, nothing gained.


sundown duck tapes Yo's fingers to her chair..

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@sundown

"Duck tape"???

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You've never heard or used duck tape?

"Duct tape is a vinyl, fabric-reinforced, multi-purpose pressure sensitive tape with a soft and tacky pressure sensitive adhesive."

The only way to break it, is to cut it.

You notice that Yo never answered!

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"Ummmmmmmm...... I could say SO much, but... I'll refrain... "

I can't believe you passed up the opportunity. I am seeing it in my mind now, wow a lot we missed out on, but then again the free for all mayhem after would have been uncontrollable.

Chris

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@sundown

Deniil715 got it right. The lower the temp the longer it will last. I would also be lying if I said I didn't want higher clocks also.


Come on Flex

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@Deniil715

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To prolong the life of the CPU in a tight/hot/less ventilated box of course

I believe it is an ironical response. If not, there's been a fuse somewhere...

Bye,
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Are you all morons? (except TheKorn)

It's common knowledge, at least to most of us, that the colder a piece of silicon electronic is (within specs) the longer it's average life time is.

Having a heatsink on a chip that gets more or less hot is always better than not having it, especially if the airflow is limited. Why? Because if the airflow is limited, it is even more important that the limited air can pick up as much heat as it can before leaving the box and it does that better when passing though a heatsink than just passing over a small flat surface.

If I ever get to buy a Sam I will most likely put a heatsink on the CPU since I will have it in a fanless, although halv open, box.

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@sundown

So which one would you use? The multi-purpose tape or the one for holding down ducks.

@Deniil715

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Deniil715 wrote: Are you all morons? (except TheKorn)

I can only speak for Sundown..

@Yo
Uh oh, someone needs some holiday 'cheer'. Cheer, of course, comes in many forms, and sizes.

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@TheKorn

According to the cpu doc, you can attach a heatsink with double sided thermal tape, no grease needed. You still need moving air through the case to make it work. Max frequency of the cpu is 667MHz & because of the high clock rate, it's most likely generated on the cpu chip & can't be changed.

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@Hypex

I've crossed paths with 2 nesting ducks in my life & I could have used a roll of duck tape in both cases!

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Are you all morons?

Sorry Your Wisdom, but you need to learn some manners..
On the other hand, you didn't exclude yourself, so I should cut you some slack.


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I can only speak for Sundown..

Somehow I just knew this smilie would come in handy..

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@TheKorn
Yes is a good idea to put one cooler for the CPU but the best option is for the GPU from ATI but the problem is that current PC's fan coolers are impossible to put in these CPU and GPU, the best option is as I did to put one cooler fan in the case, and nextly in my new hard disk one cooler fan for har disk because although the Sam doesn't needs the coolers isn't bad idea to put someone, why? I have a bad experience in my Amiga 500 with the Vortex AT-Once because the 286 CPU is burned, for the heat in a close case, and the new coolers haven't much noise.

@sundown

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Sorry Your Wisdom, but you need to learn some manners.. On the other hand, you didn't exclude yourself, so I should cut you some slack.

Oh, that's funny...
I just felt I posted a perfectly sane and logical comment and then I got ridiculed for it!!?! That kind of ####ed me off a little....

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To prolong the life of the CPU in a tight/hot/less ventilated box of course

If sam has working tempreature sensor, in case of crowded case I would go for case fan first, load the cpu and watch with ambient temp about 27C.
Easier and cheapier if it stays cool within specs (cae fan can be larger than cpu one, and thus quieter, and there's not much sense in ciculating air inside case, will misty delay the overheating).
If cpu fan is required, it's a pity there are no mounting holes. Means thermal glue shoud be used and not paste which is more effective (can easily make a difference of 10 degrees).

My 2p on the issue.


Jack

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@Deniil715

The others were making fun of your sentence. Tight, hot box? Can you think of anything else that could mean? :)

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